Is this a scam ???

Verdammt · 05-02-2004 12:01PM #1

I put my computer up for sale on Freeads.ie and I just received this email this morning. Does it look like a scam and how should I handle it ???

Email:

Hi ,

Good Day Seller,
My name is charles maga,I am located in the states,i buy goods and
services for my customers Home and abroad especially from europe,well
i have a client right now that is willing to buy your computer
because he needs it very urgent,I will like you to tell me your last offering
price and its present condition immediately.
My client will be willing to pay via wire transfer to your account direct.so let me be know the cost
and present condition of the computer and any recent pictures if needed, Get back to me as soon as possible.i look
forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
Charles Maga .

Thanks
BJ

eth0_ · 05-02-2004 12:05PM

Check the IP address and see where he's REALLY located.
I'll bet it's Romania, it's a hotbed for scams.

Ask him for more details, are you supposed to send the computer BEFORE you get the money?

parasite · 05-02-2004 12:07PM

yes, he speaks like a 419 email

Catsmokinpot · 05-02-2004 12:08PM

email him back

looks kosher

dont send the pc till you know the money is going through

Verdammt · 05-02-2004 12:08PM

Originally posted by eth0_
Check the IP address and see where he's REALLY located.
I'll bet it's Romania, it's a hotbed for scams.

Ask him for more details, are you supposed to send the computer BEFORE you get the money?

I received the email through hotmail. Is there a way to track the IP through there ??

Johnny Versace · 05-02-2004 12:14PM

It's a scam. I've seen this e-mail before. It's just another way of getting your bank details, and your name, address, blah blah.

Verdammt · 05-02-2004 12:21PM

I've just replied, I think i'll play his little game for a while and see where it goes.

eth0_ · 05-02-2004 12:23PM

Originally posted by Billy-Joe
I received the email through hotmail. Is there a way to track the IP through there ??

I haven't used hotmail in years...can you see the headers? If so, paste them in here

Verdammt · 05-02-2004 12:26PM

Originally posted by eth0_
I haven't used hotmail in years...can you see the headers? If so, paste them in here

this is all i have :

From : <charles_ltd@uymail.com>
Sent : Thursday, February 5, 2004 2:28 AM
To : xxxxxx_xxxx@hotmail.com
Subject : FreeAds.ie : AMD 2600+ complete pc

Hi ,

Good Day Seller,
My name is charles maga,I am located in the states,i buy goods and
services for my customers Home and abroad especially from europe,well
i have a client right now that is willing to buy your computer
because he needs it very urgent,I will like you to tell me your last offering
price and its present condition immediately.
My client will be willing to pay via wire transfer to your account direct.so let me be know the cost
and present condition of the computer and any recent pictures if needed, Get back to me as soon as possible.i look
forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
Charles Maga .

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Jokah · 05-02-2004 12:33PM

Hotmail addresses cannot be traced. IP addresses in hotmail cannot be traced.

Dealing with this kind of thing on a day to day basis, it is a fraud.

Ignore the email. It is a fraud.

Johnny Versace is very right when he says it is another way to get your bank details etc.

reigninblood · 05-02-2004 12:55PM

Total scam. Like he is going to bother going to all this hassle for his "clients" to buy second hand PC's! It's not like you're selling a Picasso or sumthin. Tell him to shag off cos he WILL be draining your bank account if you let him wire money to you. Just wait for someone normal and local to pay you cash in hand for it.

Johnny Versace · 05-02-2004 01:02PM

Originally posted by reigninblood
Just wait for someone normal and local...

LOL! I love it. "Normal and local"

Verdammt · 05-02-2004 01:03PM

Originally posted by Johnny Versace
LOL! I love it. "Normal and local"

I live in Swords, so i think I have a better chance of selling it to the email guy than finding someone "Normal and Local" in Dublin ???

reigninblood · 05-02-2004 01:13PM

Well you'll find plenty of locals anyway.

Is it some kind of supercomputer or something? What makes you think somebody in the US would urgently need your PC? I think its more likely that some bloke in Romania urgently needs your bank account details.

I did see a normal person in Dublin once but I can't remember his name.

Ronaldo7 · 05-02-2004 01:37PM

Play his game. Ask for a contact number. Tell him you will be in the area and car deliver it to him personally. Play this mother****er...LOL

suppafly · 05-02-2004 02:00PM

i does sound pretty dodgy alright right. Don't give him and an detaisl about yurself or yur bank account and get some more info on him, play with him a bit

Hobbes · 05-02-2004 03:13PM

Originally posted by Jokah
Hotmail addresses cannot be traced. IP addresses in hotmail cannot be traced.

Should be an option in Hotmail called "Show full headers" and you can get thier IP address that way (or at least the mail relays they went through.

Tell him you will accept Western Union.

Johnny Versace · 05-02-2004 03:15PM

Yup, you can actually trace hotmail addresses. It's in the header somewhere (can't remember what the field is called... X-Referer or somethng...)

reigninblood · 05-02-2004 03:24PM

Tell him you'l go through with it and then get your ESB bill and give him their payment account details as yours and watch as some Romanian tries to bleed the ESB's account. Hahaahaaa Interpol will be round his gaff in a flash! That'd be funny. And even if he is legit, he'll pay your ESB bill.

/pats self on back

DaithiSurfer · 05-02-2004 03:24PM

what can he do with your bank account details.
i would have thought that he could only put money in with your account number

if he pretends to be you and withdraws money thats the banks fault not yours i would think

Mossy Monk · 05-02-2004 04:24PM

Originally posted by DaithiSurfer
if he pretends to be you and withdraws money thats the banks fault not yours i would think

it is the fault of the account holder for giving the details in the first place

Fudger · 05-02-2004 04:26PM

419 for sure, stay away from it.

DaithiSurfer · 05-02-2004 04:31PM

i wouldnt imagine it is the account holders fault.
Details for bank accounts can be got in many places.
The bank should make sure they give out money to the account holder only.
if they accept a forged cheque or failed to do the relevant checks etc they messed up and the account holder is not held responsible.
My first job was a pleb at the bank counter for my sins.

Verdammt · 05-02-2004 04:52PM

I'll wait until he replies first. But i very much doubt it. I might even try the ESB thing.

Johnny Versace · 05-02-2004 04:53PM

Originally posted by reigninblood
Tell him you'l go through with it and then get your ESB bill and give him their payment account details as yours and watch as some Romanian tries to bleed the ESB's account. Hahaahaaa Interpol will be round his gaff in a flash! That'd be funny. And even if he is legit, he'll pay your ESB bill.

/pats self on back

LOL! Now that I'd like to see!

tba · 05-02-2004 04:56PM

Originally posted by reigninblood
Just wait for someone normal and local to pay you cash in hand for it.

This is a local PC for local people, theres nothing here for you!:mad:

reigninblood · 05-02-2004 05:11PM

This is a local PC for local people, theres nothing here for you!

LOL!

Tell him it only speaks Irish. Tell him it runs Fuinneog XP

Raphael · 05-02-2004 05:12PM

Originally posted by reigninblood
Tell him you'l go through with it and then get your ESB bill and give him their payment account details as yours and watch as some Romanian tries to bleed the ESB's account. Hahaahaaa Interpol will be round his gaff in a flash! That'd be funny. And even if he is legit, he'll pay your ESB bill.

/pats self on back

Thats genious!

Verdammt · 05-02-2004 05:17PM

Check out Raphael's post count "666". This poster is the Beast !!!!

Bluehair · 05-02-2004 05:21PM

Originally posted by tba
This is a local PC for local people, theres nothing here for you!:mad:

Whats all this shouting we'll have no trouble here

(Seriously though as everyone has pointed out it's obviously a scam. Could be fun to be had though play with his head for a little while like this guy did http://spl.haxial.net/nigerian-fraud/ fecking hilarious stuff

)

Divine · 05-02-2004 05:24PM

why not go into a bank and open up a new account with just a fiver or something in it, that way if he is authentic you will get the money and if not he might at the very most make 5 Euro off you.

*simple*

Is this a scam ???

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