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Metallica June 04

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Mongo


    There was abuse alright but LP finished their set


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    did they? was a very short set so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭Brian Houlihan


    Someone above pointed out young people wearing slipknot etc.

    To be honest maybe half of them actually know what they sound like, these people are usually part of a hoodie gang as I see it. Also I doubt that many 12 year olds would go to slipknot, if so thats cool for them.

    Like to add though there was a butt load of little kids running around like headless chickes during LP. Their fanbase in Ireland it seems to me is very much kids between 8- 16 or whatever.

    I don't care who supports as long as I have fun and don't get drunk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭raven136


    people had every right to boo and bottle lp.the people who booed and bottled(i was one )came to see a traditional hard rocking guitar based outfit not some teeny bopper radio friendly scratching machine.
    metallica was a rock gig and linkin park are bascially a pop band cashing in on someone elses culture.they are westlife with piercings and tatoos and if they play again ill have no problem booing again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    Originally posted by raven136
    people had every right to boo and bottle lp.the people who booed and bottled(i was one )came to see a traditional hard rocking guitar based outfit not some teeny bopper radio friendly scratching machine.
    metallica was a rock gig and linkin park are bascially a pop band cashing in on someone elses culture.they are westlife with piercings and tatoos and if they play again ill have no problem booing again

    No they (and you) didn't. Don't even try to justify it. It's bad f*cking form and you know it. People like you should be f*ucked out of venues.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭vasch_ro


    Originally posted by raven136
    people had every right to boo and bottle lp.the people who booed and bottled(i was one )came to see a traditional hard rocking guitar based outfit not some teeny bopper radio friendly scratching machine.
    metallica was a rock gig and linkin park are bascially a pop band cashing in on someone elses culture.they are westlife with piercings and tatoos and if they play again ill have no problem booing again

    I believe this is condoning anti social and violent behaviour , it is not a very mature why to express your opinions
    if you don not like lincoln Park just do not go in for that portion of the gig
    why interfere with other peoples day out,

    As an aside I saw metallica in the Top Hat in Dun laoire many moons ago and am really looking forward to their return, if I see any immature people throwing bottles I will report them to the bouncers/ Police/stewards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,601 ✭✭✭Kali


    Originally posted by raven136
    people had every right to boo and bottle lp.the people who booed and bottled(i was one )came to see a traditional hard rocking guitar based outfit not some teeny bopper radio friendly scratching machine.

    Grow up. you preach on another thread about people always giving Irish bands a hard time, yet here you are slating other peoples opinons and preferences. If you're that ignorant then simply don't go to the gig, plain and simple, and its not as if metallica haven't sold out either to the mainstream audience, they and their promoters CHOSE linkin park to support them on tour, think about it for a second. music fascists like you make me sick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭D!ve^Bomb!


    miow:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭honru


    Many people condone the abuse Linkin Park got on that day, but I personally feel embarassed as a nation that the band had to endure that amount of crap during a show. Firstly, there must have been a good few people there who paid to see Linkin Park, so why you should spoil it for them? And what about the band themselves, how would you feel in their shoes? Granted, I am not a fan of Linkin Park, but you can choose whether to go see them or not. The uproar over the absence of Whisky on the Jar on Metallica's setlist just proves my point further, and shows how narrow-minded some people are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    I agree I am being a bit narrow minded but it drives me mad to see people supporting manufactered image dependent bands that have no substance, no style and are completely commercial, granted metallica are pretty much completely commercial these days but hearing the old stuff is too good to miss.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭Señor Juárez


    a lot of people just didnt bother with linkin park. another 10 thousand people (minimum) arrived just in time to see Metallica last time round. the place was only packed after LP finished


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭James R


    Linkin Park had as much right to be there as Metallica. Its bad enough to boo a support band but at the end of the day it was a co-headliner.

    I'm not a LP fan but there were people there who went solely/mainly to see them and lets face it their day was ruined a bit by people like you!

    How would you feel if you forked out over 60 quid and had some muppet ruin the concert for you?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    if there was that many people booing and pegging stuff at a band i liked i'd probably wake up and realise how crap they were and go home and break all there cds


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭Señor Juárez


    whaddya mean, people like me? i was there from the beginning, getting my money's worth, hence my ability to comment about the numbers of people before & after linkin park.

    i dont particularly enjoy em, so i didnt listen to them, conversed with friends instead.

    __

    on that note, do you think that, say, "Pop Stars" would have an equal right to be there backing up Metallica?


    thought not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭honru


    Originally posted by draffodx
    if there was that many people booing and pegging stuff at a band i liked i'd probably wake up and realise how crap they were and go home and break all there cds


    Originally posted by marclar
    on that note, do you think that, say, "Pop Stars" would have an equal right to be there backing up Metallica? thought not.


    Ah, cut out the crap and try and be a bit more realistic on the subject; its the whole narrow-mindedness again. Linkin Park are still a metal band, different style of metal compared to Metallica but still metal nonetheless. I see no reason why the promoters would not give the go ahead for this concert given the opportunity - its bound to rake profit.

    Take me back to Red Hot Chili Peppers, Landsdowne Road, in 2002. New Order were supporting, a band I was looking foward to see because I was a big fan of Joy Division (and I liked New Order too). However, probably because they were a band hardly compatible with the Red Hot Chili Peppers, or because there were so many kids who didn't know who or what were playing, the band were booed. The atmosphere was numb at best.

    I see in no way how my experience matchs your statement draffodx. Perhaps the negative people are the ignorant ones after all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭Señor Juárez


    aye, you could say the same about The darkness at the last metallica gig. its not that people booed them, it was more that they ignored them. they just werent interested. despite their best efforts, only a minimal groan was the crowd's response.


    But i went to their own gig in vicar street. i can honestly say that it was the most enjoyable thing i have ever seen. ever. its all about atmosphere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭James R


    Originally posted by marclar

    on that note, do you think that, say, "Pop Stars" would have an equal right to be there backing up Metallica?


    Maybe maybe not but thats not for us to decide thats the promoters.

    And officially Linkin Park weren't "backing up" Metallica they were co-headlining with them. Theres a difference!

    You knew they'd be there when you bought your ticket so deal with it.

    If you go to a gig tomorrow and don't like the support fair enough but LP werent just support they were co-headliners and even then you should still respect that some people do actually go to gigs for the support acts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭Señor Juárez


    i know that slipknot are also playing with metallica this year, does anyone know if there is anyone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭raven136


    do you people think that if we pay 50/60 euro we don't have a right to boo an act?I don't agree with the bottle throwing and if i didnt make that clear i apologise but the booing was understandable.I went to that gig with a long time supporter of rock music and he was embarrased by the fact that a band his teenage daughter likes supported one of the worlds best rock bands and he booed for that and other reasons.

    One of the other reasons that they were booed is the fact that their manager is a simon cowell type and that their record company spent millions advertising them in teeenage girls and boys magazines,the basic fact being they are a band who are making a fortune from tapping into someone else's culture.

    And people, don't forget that the only reason that metallica had them support them is because they were cheaper than most others and due to dwindling sales of previous albums Metallica knew they would bring in a younger audience to help sell the tickets.And that was not good form from Metallica either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Originally posted by raven136


    And people, don't forget that the only reason that metallica had them support them is because they were cheaper than most others and due to dwindling sales of previous albums Metallica knew they would bring in a younger audience to help sell the tickets.And that was not good form from Metallica either

    Why didn't he boo Metallica then? Surely they're no better than LP's "Simon Cowell" style manager by your reasoning...

    Try having some respect for the other people who go to the concert. I've a mate of mine who abused the sh*te out of The Revs at Dublin Castle supporting Muse a couple of years ago, nothing blue now, but plenty of "ironic" cheering for them. There was a young kid in front of us with his family who was there to see them, I genuinely felt sorry for the kid. His night was ruined by one mouthpiece, I'd hate to think what would have happened if he'd been at the Metallica show last year to see LP.

    Note to "true" metal fans...if you don't like the support band that much, don't go at all. Deny Metallica your €60 and maybe then they'll get your message.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭raven136


    Nobody can deny that Metallica are arseholses aswell but just because of this should we be denied the chance both to hear their classic songs and to vent our frustration at the choice of support act?Its a democracy and if your at home you don't watch ****e on the t.v. you change the channell but at a gig you cant turn off the support act so you vent your frustration i other ways


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭James R


    If you started booing in a packed pub when a football match is on because you hate football what do you think would happen to you?

    Show some respect. First of all Linkin Park were not even a support band they were co-headliners. They got just as much from playing as Metallica. The only support band there that day was the darkness.

    If I had paid to go see LP I would have been mightily pissed off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Originally posted by raven136
    Nobody can deny that Metallica are arseholses aswell but just because of this should we be denied the chance both to hear their classic songs and to vent our frustration at the choice of support act?

    Not to #1, yes to #2.

    Taking last years gig as an example, you were not compelled to watch LP play. You could have left the arena to get a drink/something to eat/just chill, but you didn't. You stayed to hear music you say you don't like, then expressed your disgust by booing. Thats moronic. Would you boo your way through a film you don't like in the cinema? Or would you just leave, like any normal person would do?

    Suggestion for this years show. Don't go into the arena for the support band if they aren't to your liking. That way you don't have to watch a band you don't like play (the sound won't be that distracting from the bar area), and those who are there to see the bands play will be left alone. Everybody's happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    Its like your right to protest, you have a right to protest dont you?

    I didnt listen to or boo at linken park last year, i went and got something to eat but i wanted to get a decent position in the crowd so had to have my ears bleed listening to the títs last few songs, i'm not condoning what happened to them but i was glad to see it happen, if that makes any sense.

    it really gets me píssed off when i see people supporting such talentless f**ks, really does get me down when idiots like them get to play "music" because of there image.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭James R


    Like therecklessone said what if you're at a film?

    I mean most Irish films nowadays such as Veronica Guerin and Intermission and that had short films before them that lets face it some like and some hate. Are you going to boo through that til the main showing comes on? hardly.

    And yes LP may be talentless ****s in your opinion but a lot of people like them thats why they've sold so many albums.

    Walk down most streets nowadays and ask people what they think of Metallica and the majority will say they're ****e.

    Why should certain people's views on music be deemed better than others? True you can make the point it WAS a Metallica concert but it WAS also a LP concert. They were both headlining that day remember.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 mithrandir


    I just got my ticket this morning!

    Gates open at 3pm and show starts at 6pm (or so it says) - looks like I will have to sneak off early from work again this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    If it was the other way around and metallica were supporting linken park, do ya think linken park fans would have boo'd metallica?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭Señor Juárez


    doubtful, seeing as all linkin park fans are trying to be "rad" (and other such "in" words). they have to pretend to like metallica, therefore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭TheSonOfBattles


    Jebus ye people have a low opinion of Linkin Park, their music and their fans. Who are ye to pass judgement on other people and their tastes. I went to the concert ye're all on about last year mainly to see Metallica, but I wanted to see Linkin Park and The Darkness as well. As it happened I got delayed by family problems and I only caught the second half of Metallica and spent all my time there alone :( I like Metallicas old music, but I prefer Black Album and Load/Reload, and if I'd made it to the whole concert, I'd hate to seen it ruined by a bunch of pretentious assholes who think their taste in music is more important and takes precedent over other peoples.

    I'm gonna be going to this summers concert as well regardless of who's supporting because I want to see a whole concert, but I'd rather ye didn't ruin it this time because you look down on someone else music tastes.


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