acid .. to dangerous to chance taking it?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 06-01-2004 08:00PM

Originally posted by Sico
Roffle. It's quite clear you've never tried E. Saying that you WILL go back on E after trying one is like saying you WILL drink another alcoholic drink if you drink one. First of all, E is very very rarely addictive. Far more rarely than alcohol. Second, IMO, it's no big deal if you try it more than once (as alcohol). In fact, alcohol is one of my least favourite drugs - I've seen lives destroyed by it, I don't like the person I turn into when I'm on it, and I feel like crap the next day. Give me a €5 pill any night over €60 worth of booze.

oh, and preach it brutha!

-ADREN- · 06-01-2004 08:03PM

just dont ****in do it is the simple answer, its stupid and immature...

Thats a very narrow perspective of the whole thing.. Is there much of a problem trying new things.. if it really doesnt pose that much of a problem.

Note the reason I asked here was to get general advise on the matter, in which case ure comment is not disregarded, its just that i feel its a very blunt statement.. what is it that makes it so stupid and immature?

echomadman · 06-01-2004 08:04PM

It's more than a drug, it's an investment!

rofl, i'm sitting on quite a nestegg then.

I didn't think anyone could get good acid in ireland anymore, its not like in my day i tells ya.

D!ve^Bomb! · 06-01-2004 08:12PM

Originally posted by -ADREN-
Thats a very narrow perspective of the whole thing.. Is there much of a problem trying new things.. if it really doesnt pose that much of a problem.

Note the reason I asked here was to get general advise on the matter, in which case ure comment is not disregarded, its just that i feel its a very blunt statement.. what is it that makes it so stupid and immature?

firstly,

its a drug,
it can be a dangerous drug,
it can lead to other drugs,
its addictive,
it'll probably make ya think u can fly so u'll probably gonna wanna jump off the nearest building

need i say anymore

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 06-01-2004 08:13PM

no you need not, at least until you pull your head out of your ass

who told you that? mammy and daddy? do a little bit of research before you start ****ing off here with that crap

The Beer Baron · 06-01-2004 08:13PM

Now yer gonna be paranoid when you take it thanks to all these lot.

Only advice I can give?
Don't do it on an empty stomach, eating can be a rather strange experience.
Last time I took it I was alone in the house, I ran about with a pint glass of water really thirsy but everytime I went to drink the water went all "The Abyss" on me. I was freaked out of my hairy little head.

Also, a word of advice on curtains- y'know those crazy patterned granny's house sorta curtains? Like with paisley leafy patterns and swirls and such?
Avoid them, they're evil- EVIL I TELL YOU!

Also- and experts dispute things but then so-called experts dispute everything I say, a cushion of alcohol is always preferable, I find when you're drunk enough you can handle anything- albiet badly, but you can still handle it.

The Lysergic Baron has spoken. :ninja:

D!ve^Bomb! · 06-01-2004 08:16PM

Originally posted by Mordeth
no you need not, at least until you pull your head out of your ass

who told you that? mammy and daddy? do a little bit of research before you start ****ing off here with that crap

ur the narrow minded kinda prick who starts on these 'safe' drugs and who thinks that they'll never get addicted, everthin i said is true so shut the **** up ya muppet

simu · 06-01-2004 08:23PM

Also, a word of advice on curtains- y'know those crazy patterned granny's house sorta curtains? Like with paisley leafy patterns and swirls and such? Avoid them, they're evil- EVIL I TELL YOU!

lol! Taking acid made me wonder what sort of evil-knevil ppl design those horrible paisley-type carpets!

echomadman · 06-01-2004 08:27PM

it'll probably make ya think u can fly so u'll probably gonna wanna jump off the nearest building

its more likely to make you think that the carpet is really interesting. you obviously don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, you're just spouting all the tired old "war on drugs" crap.
as mordeth said, go and do some unbiased research

its addictive

you're an idiot, did i mention that

06-01-2004 08:28PM

Originally posted by -ADREN-
but couldnt that €5 pill have anything in it .. like you could be taking anything..

you can buy pill testing kits online pretty cheaply....

D!ve^Bomb! · 06-01-2004 08:33PM

of course its addictive, just cos u dont get addicted to it doesn't mean no one else will,, do u think heroin addicts started off on heroin you ignorant ****n prick??

-ADREN- · 06-01-2004 08:34PM

yea have been reading up on it in the last hour.. and it is said to be not addictive at all..

The Beer Baron · 06-01-2004 08:34PM

firstly,

its a drug,

Really? Jesus! If I knew that I wouldn't take it.

it can be a dangerous drug,

If you take too much asprin it can be a dangerous drug.
Hell if you took too many communion hosts it'd have an adverse effect on your health.

it can lead to other drugs,

what like caffiene? nicotiene? alcohol?
Oh no not Bisodol surely?

its addictive,

your sources for all these claims?

www.biblebashingsundayworldreadingmoron.org maybe?

it'll probably make ya think u can fly so u'll probably gonna wanna jump off the nearest building

You're on the ANTI side right?
It's hard to tell because if I read this when I was younger I'd so be all over the stuff...oh wait...carry on.

need i say anymore

please don't you'll spoil the nice atmos.

I'm going over here to talk to this brick wall, have a nice day.

{a nice pic of newband for the rest o' yee}

06-01-2004 08:36PM

in all fairness you'd want to seriously OD to think you could fly. The person who said you're more likely to think the carpet is a lot more interesting was spot on there...

check out www.bluelight.nu

Cake Fiend · 06-01-2004 08:58PM

Originally posted by newband
firstly,

its a drug,
it can be a dangerous drug,
it can lead to other drugs,
its addictive,
it'll probably make ya think u can fly so u'll probably gonna wanna jump off the nearest building

need i say anymore

I hope Monty deletes your posts for spreading misinformation. Not to mention your vulgar personal attacks later in the thread.

You quite clearly have done no research and don't know what you're talking about. You have the argumentative skills of a 12-year-old to boot. How can you expect people to take you seriously when your best argument is "you ignorant ****n prick??"

If you're going to make wild statements like the above quoted, add some links to back your points up. It's painfully obvious that you're ranting in an unleashed manner without any proof to back up your vague points.

And I don't think I'm the only one who rolled my eyes at the old 'it leads to other drugs' chestnut...

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 06-01-2004 09:01PM

im actually not sure if newband is a very slow witted person, or a very intelligent one.. .

Dustaz · 06-01-2004 09:08PM

Sicos first two posts on this thread are the single most helpful and informative thing youll ever read with regards to this subject. Read them again and then make up your own mind.

Selik · 06-01-2004 09:19PM

Originally posted by Sico
I remember trying to descend a long flight of stairs in an apartment complex once on a bad trip - I was going from the fifth floor to the ground floor trying to get outside, after the third or so set of stairs (there was no way I was taking the lift) I began to panic that I had entered a loop of some sort and that I would never get off the stairs, especially as all I could see when I looked down was more and more stairs. Not a pleasant experience.

Forgive me if I have a little laugh about that Sico!!!

Selik · 06-01-2004 09:41PM

Newband, your comments and opinions on this thread up to now remind me of many a person that I have known over the years who seems to think that they know it all when it comes to subjects like drugs and their various forms. It's pretty much a fact that most heroin users have probably used cannabis at some stage, they will also have probably used nicotine and alcohol as well as tea and coffee. This doesn't mean that everyone who smokes cannabis or drinks alcohol / tea / coffee eventually starts taking heroin. In fact your ignorance and total lack of education on the whole subject is all too apparent. If I had to hazard a guess I would say that you're about 14-17 years of age and that you've had one or two scaremongering chats / talks from various adults such as your parents, the police or your teachers. You should try and think for yourself independently and try not believe everything that you are told, especially when it comes to spouting such tripe as "mushrooms are addictive". I couldn't think of anything less physically addictive if I tried. Go and educate yourself and then come back with an informed opinion.

Civilian_Target · 06-01-2004 09:45PM

Originally posted by newband
firstly,

its a drug,
it can be a dangerous drug,
it can lead to other drugs,
its addictive,
it'll probably make ya think u can fly so u'll probably gonna wanna jump off the nearest building

need i say anymore

Knives.

Firstly,

They're sharp
They can cut you.
They can lead to bleeding
Bleedings bad
Using knives make you want to go out and murder people.

Knives should be made illegal.

Seriously though, I've never done acid, but if the surroundings are good, you feel comfortable and you know it is actually acid (one of my friends got conned into smoking turf in secondary school thinking it was dope, and somehow mananged to convince himself he was stoned), go for it.

And by the way, how are we going to cut our dinner without knives?

-ADREN- · 06-01-2004 09:58PM

heh.. yea heard that turff con before heh..

spongebob · 06-01-2004 10:12PM

Originally posted by simu
Good advice that!

No. Mushrooms can vary hugely in strength a M8 had a bad experience on 10 of them and he was not a first timer.

If you MUST then Get 2 acid tabs from a reliale source. Take a quarter see how it hoes then take a hlaf and see how that goes. Acid tab doses are controlled so all the tabs in a batch will be the same ....more or less.

Tryr not to get stuck on negative thoughts. Prolly easier said than done, though!

Thats the best advice . Dont mess with hallucinogens if not in a generally happy state of mind they accentuate your current mood in general and do not alter your general frame of mind at the time.

A very good friend has been taking acid on and off since the 60's and reckons the normal doses nowadays are a lot smaller than they were up to the late 70's

M

Dempsey · 06-01-2004 10:55PM

Originally posted by Sico
First of all, E is very very rarely addictive. Far

No but you'll want the rush again. The next weekend will seem crap without one.

Kold · 06-01-2004 11:09PM

People who have a completely negative view on drugs should really not post here to be honest. They have no helpful knowledge whatsoever

BlitzKrieg · 06-01-2004 11:13PM

Originally posted by -ADREN-
Well lets see..

Im not suicidal
Im generally in a good mood.
and if I am in a good plesent mood at the time?

.....*cough* bull**** mark... Generally your pissed off about something. Or pissed off at me

-ADREN- · 06-01-2004 11:20PM

ehh well ill make sure im in a good mood

now shh whishht..

Dempsey · 06-01-2004 11:29PM

Originally posted by Kold
People who have a completely negative view on drugs should really not post here to be honest. They have no helpful knowledge whatsoever

Is everyone suppose to say, "Yea take em, great laff. Ya wont regret it".

nadir · 07-01-2004 12:00AM

yea its fine. I mean so long as its pure of course and you dont like take 10 tabs or something stupid.

D!ve^Bomb! · 07-01-2004 12:00AM

Originally posted by Giles
It's pretty much a fact that most heroin users have probably used cannabis at some stage, they will also have probably used nicotine and alcohol as well as tea and coffee.

This doesn't mean that everyone who smokes cannabis or drinks alcohol / tea / coffee eventually starts taking heroin.

If I had to hazard a guess I would say that you're about 14-17 years of age and that you've had one or two scaremongering chats.

You should try and think for yourself independently and try not believe everything that you are told, especially when it comes to spouting such tripe as "mushrooms are addictive". I couldn't think of anything less physically addictive if I tried. Go and educate yourself and then come back with an informed opinion.

First of all i am 20 years of age, secondly i have never had ''one or two scaremongering chats'' with anyone.. wot i know on the subject is from my own experiences with a friend of mine . and i didn't say mushrooms are addictive now did i?

i knew a person who had started on things such as E's, dope, acid among others. he was the kind of person who were like everyone who is disagreeing with me on boards.ie.. he said ''its not addictive'', ''i'd never do heroin''.. now i'm not sayin that acid or dope or anythin like that WILL lead to harder drugs all the time, but in A LOT of cases it does!! including the particular person i am refering to, and absolutely NO ONE can disagree with me on that and if u do then u definitely dont have a clue...

ya can throw all the links statin all the facts in the world at me, i really dont care wot they say.. the fact of the matter is that drugs lead to other drugs, SOMETIMES, even if its 1 outta 100 people that go on to harder drugs, thats 1 too many!

i apologise for any bad language i have used and if offended anyone, then i apologise.

Selik · 07-01-2004 12:29AM

Maybe we should just ban everything then Newband? I mean I started my life drinking milk and look what that led on to - tea, coffee, sugar and of course the evil cannabis.

Most people who do so-called "hard drugs" will have also done so-called "soft drugs" at some stage. That's logical however the same rational does not apply the other way around...

FACT: Alcohol & tobacco kill more people directly every year than all other drugs combined including prescription drugs (although they kill alot more people and cause alot more problems than some of the big pharmaceutical companies would like people to believe).

FACT: The "gateway" theory in relation to illegal drugs is a load of crap and has been proven to be so.

I don't condemn or condone the use of drugs, it's entirely up to the individual to make an informed decision on what they put into their bodies. Drugs can be good, bad or indifferent but they will ALWAYS be around in society andthe sooner people start to accept this and get away from the American-led alleged war on drugs the better. Incidentally, the war on drugs itself causes more misery than the drugs themselves ever will. Think about it logically, if something like orange juice was outlawed tomorrow, would you end up with safer orange juice? Of course not! If anything, it would be less safe as there would be no controls and regulations governing it's production in place. And those who like their OJ would still continue to consume it regardless of the potential risks. Hell even water would be dodgy if it was made illegal! :eek:

acid .. to dangerous to chance taking it?

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