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3 Year old Child thrown into Crocodile Pit in UK

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭StarryPlough01


    I’ve got a BBC News update on the youngster. He was attacked by one crocodile. I’ve heard crocodiles are really energetic, they attack quickly.

    I hope the community are rallying around the parents of this little boy.

    “Boy, 3, was attacked by crocodile at zoo”
    Rachael McMenemy and Vinnie O'Dowd
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp9l2278m8no



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Back to the shilling. Can you provide any evidence of how I'm engaged in underhanded behaviour, or how I benefit in any way from mentioning a particular website that I have found to be a reliable source of information and scientifically backed evidence? Can you explain how my linking to a reputable website that's providing a useful public service is shilling/advertising* (*delete as applicable) and you linking to a disreputable tabloid is not?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭StarryPlough01


    The 3-year old child is now in a critical but stable condition. He will be in good hands at Addensbrooke:
    https://www.cuh.nhs.uk/news/addenbrookes-helipad-to-operate-247/

    https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/boy-thrown-crocodile-pit-zoo-34161342

    “The newspaper also reported the youngster may have avoided death or more severe harm because the creature that attacked him had been fed livestock offcuts, meaning it might not have identified the child as prey.

    “The injured toddler's identity has not been made public. Cambridgeshire Constabulary confirmed in a statement: "A three-year-old boy from Cambridgeshire remains at Addenbrooke's hospital in a critical but stable condition following an incident at Johnsons of Old Hurst.

    As a mother, hearing the crocs are fed livestock offcuts wouldn't reassure me at all. You can't predict what an animal will do in my opinion (I'm not being critical of animals !! I'm a vegetarian).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    "I really can understand why fewer and fewer people are choosing to have children in a world that is filled with negativity, wickedness and despicable evil"

    People need a reality check.

    There has always been reasons for people not to have children, not to have hope, to despair etc etc.

    Living in the western world today is paradise when compared with huge swathes of the globe and for our entire history as a species. Largely because we have it so good we have become so soft and unprepeared for any kind of hardship of potential hardship.

    Compare your life and its comforts, access to unlimited food, quality housing, security, etc etc with your grandparents and a few generations before that.

    Humans adapt, find a way, get around huge problems, recover from the worst tradegies etc etc.

    Being brave enough, and not being crimpled by anxiety, to give a knew generation a chance is a starting point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,471 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Not like today when futures are more uncertain than ever, more and more jobs are being displaced and the cost of living soars. All this unfolds against the backdrop of climate change.

    The question isn't why people are having fewer children, it's why they bother to have any at all.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Yeah we have it so tough wish I was back living on potatoes in the 1840s, living 10 to a hut, with four siblings dead as infants, rampant disease.....

    Get off the internet go have a look at the real world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    Childcare is incredibly expensive in Ireland, a lot of people have to factor in whether both parents can afford to work if they have children or whether one income would be sufficient. Added to that, if hoping to apply and get a mortgage, additional income stress is added to the affordability criteria, so it can be a choice between kids or a house for a lot of middle income earners who earn too much for supports.

    So, obviously not comparable to the 1840s, but it's not easy to manage either.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Juran


    Child care in Ireland is non existant. After maternity leave, the majority couples or mothers pay a childminder 'off the books'. And its not cheap. Yes, they recieve child allowance, but its only a fraction of the cost, and not a great system as it can be spent on anything they want. Even if the small kids go to the free pre-school, the kids still a childminder early mornings, then afternoons as most people leave for work well before pre-school starts say 7am and can only pick them up after 6pm due to commuting and traffic. Thats a realistic day for majority of full time working parents, with the exception of some teachers who have shorter hours.

    In France, they dont recieve child allowance. the parents(s) pay the childminder, and they get a receipt for that payment. Each month they submit the monthly receipts online and make their claim to the child allowance department (Dont know what its called). My sister in law used to pay €1,000 each month to the childminder when her son was a baby and less for after-school.child minding when he got to school age. After her claim was processed, she would recieve over €900 back, around €920 i think. So child care cost them €80 a month, or €20 a week. That was 15 years ago, so cost has gone up since but so has the amount you get back.

    Remember if you pay a minder €1,000 a month in Ireland, thats net money you are using (after tax), you had to earn close to €2,000 to pay that.

    I belueve the system is similar in other European countries like Germany, Belgium,,Denmark, Holland .. cirrect me if I'm wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,471 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    If this is the best you can do, I think you should take your own advice.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Given your unwillingness or inability to engage with other posters, you might not be best placed to disparage the efforts of others who do manage to engage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭sekiro


    I know of a few couples and single parents who have children, some have more than one, and they haven't worked for many years, if ever.

    People who know how to play the system are just fine raising kids, getting a home, sending the kids through school and further education. They don't even need to work to achieve this.

    It's only expensive if you are an absolute mug who works their butt off so you can pay tax to fund the lifestyles of those who are smart enough to know how to play the game properly.

    Seriously if you think that having a kid in Ireland is "expensive" then you'll need to explain how thousands of people do exactly that without ever needing to work at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭sekiro


    Are you sure it isn't just a misplaced anxiety that is causing this feeling?

    Plenty of people in Ireland who aren't out there working or stressing about the future, cost of living, climate crisis or "AI stealing our jobs" they just have kids and that's that. House paid for. Pocket money from the government. Plenty of scope for drugs and booze some nice decent clothes and entertainment on TV etc plus a few offspring that will coast by quite comfortably.

    This idea that it's somehow really difficult or expensive to have kids just doesn't stack up when you see people who could hardly be described as high achievers managing to do it all just fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Juran


    Excellent point. Like you, I know plenty as well like you describe. And they still manage their 2 weeks in Spain every year, while the muggin workers can just about afford a weeks' camping in Kerry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,065 ✭✭✭plodder


    "futures more uncertain, jobs being displaced and the cost of living soars"

    When has that ever been different?

    In the late 80's I used to work with (West) Germans who decided that because of the real prospect of nuclear armageddon where they would be the first target, they decided not to have children. I wonder if they have regrets now.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 34,037 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I feel like anyone who says this kind of thing is just scrambling for an "acceptable" reason for something they just naturally feel. Cause anyone who claims they aren't having kids cause of XYZ generally seems crazy to me. Just say you don't want kids, that's fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭satguy


    The perpetrator should be in the next door cell beside the Welsh choir boy.

    I'm not racist,, I don't care what his lineage is, a cell is the right place for this guy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Had they carried out a risk assessment, it would have been.

    Mentally unstable person in a shared space with other people and children. Add dangerous animals in open pits and you’d have a pretty clear statement of reason why not to go.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭StarryPlough01


    I first skimmed your post as there had been a risk assessment carried out.

    Are you blaming the parents? My concern is for the child's recovery. No updates.

    Post edited by StarryPlough01 at


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,117 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    It’s clear the poster means a risk assessment of the dangers the man might pose to the public in a shared space with excited children and dangerous animals. How could the child’s parents be expected to know anything about that?

    Obviously for the child and their family, recovery is the main issue now, but more generally, surely prevention should be society’s main concern? It’s the only practical thing we can do. We can’t turn back the clock - but what we can do is put pressure on government and health services to stop there being more such incidents.

    If the assumption is just that it couldn’t have been avoided, then what’s to stop something similar happening again? This is not even the first such event. Jonty Bravery had a record of violence, yet he was allowed to be in a position to throw a small child over the Tate Modern balcony. That child, now a late teen, is still suffering enormously and will never have a normal life. Why were lessons not learned from that incident? Perhaps this child would now be safe if they had been.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Blame wasn’t part of my comment. If blame is to be appointed, it would be shared between those responsible for the mentally disabled person who caused injury to the child.

    I haven’t read any articles on it and I don’t care to as it would only upset me. I know the basic details which is enough to know that at least 2 carers were responsible for the 30 year old man on the day and that they were distracted by their phones.

    A risk assessment would have highlighted carer distraction as a hazard, including other people, animals and of course, their mobile phones. The phone would have been an easy hazard to counter. Forming part of the risk assessment and prevention of harm, unnecessary phone use would and should be gross negligence and therefore be a sackable offence at least.

    If the company employing the carers had no risk assessment on the day, they should be investigated and face the consequences.

    Prayers to the child and family.

    Stay Free



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    I never said it was easy.

    I'm currently raising two young children, I know my own circumstances and I'm aware of the circumstances of many other parents.

    Raising children was never easy; anybody expecting it to be hasn't being living in reality.

    My own mother raised 7 children, which at the time wasn't much above average. This was before automatic washing machine, dishwashers, central heating, well insulated houses. My father worked a 40 hr week and ran a small dairy farm; he's average work week was about 80 hrs.

    My generation and people born after me have a level of comfort unimaginable to my granfather's generation (born in 1887) not to mention the generations before. Think how much leisure time we have compared to that generation?

    It seems a cohort are suing that time to ruminate about how tough they have AND how much worse it might get.

    The fear and anxiety around climate change is pathetic. Humans since we crawled out of Africa have adapted, survived and used our rational brains to figure out our problems.

    We all have ancestors who survived much much worse.

    Let's just look at 100 years of natural disasters, if we could look back 300000 years things would be much much more challenging.

    https://ourworldindata.org/natural-disasters#death-rates-from-disasters-have-fallen-over-the-last-century

    Screenshot 2026-06-25 103226.jpg

    We have it so so bad, let just down tools and give up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    You are the one downing tools.

    Explain to us why you think we should give up as we have it so bad when compared with the countless generations have had it unimaginably harder.

    You seem crippled with anxiety to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭StarryPlough01


    Every environment poses unique risks. It’s well known kids on farms are at risk of tractors; and rural country roads pose a hazard for drivers and their child passengers. Your home is statistically where the majority of childhood injuries and accidents happen.

    The risk assessment was done by the Huntingdonshire District Council, who looked at potential hazards. A spokesperson said: "Its licence was renewed in 2024 following the statutory inspection and approval process. Public safety is a fundamental consideration in the licensing regime, including the suitability of animal enclosures and visitor barriers," ….

    I earlier put up a BBC link. Here it is again:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp9l2278m8no

    "It said its environmental health team was in touch with the zoo managers and would "consider whether any further inspection or follow-up action is required". [Huntingdonshire District Counci spokesperson]

    Crocodiles go into a spin like a corkscrew, known as the death roll, to subdue their prey. They clamp on to their target with their jaws...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    I was referring to a risk assessment from the company employing the carers. A fresh assessment ought to be done for each excursion reflecting the needs of the person being cared for, their safety and the public safety.

    Having both carers distracted (allegedly) isn’t ideal.

    Stay Free



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