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Unsolved Irish Mysteries.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 hacoran


    Maybe he was driving a different car



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    But the simplest explanation is that the guy gave her a lift, left her off in the village, and came forward to say exactly that, when she was found to be missing.

    He lived on a big farm. They dig the ground and they put up sheds and they plant stuff. Normal country life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 hacoran


    JoJo's family believe it was him for some reason. They have been vocal about this from the word go, if they had doubts about the truth of it, they surely would have remained silent?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    "for some reason" ?

    I sympathise, of course, with the family longing for some resolution to this tragedy.

    But guessing and rumours are not the same as evidence. It seems to be just all suspicion and gossip, with no actual facts ever found.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭Juran


    Agree. Last week, I watched the Netflix doc about Rachel Nickell who was murdered in Wimbledom common in 1992. A few days later, I saw a Discovery crime doc about the dreadfully poor police work on that case, and the way Colin Stagg was accused, arrested, kept in prison for 15 months, let go, etc.. this went on for years. Rachels parents, after his court case was thrown out by the judge, spoke outside the court that justice was not done and pointed to Stagg as the guilty party. They maintained for years that Stagg was guilty.

    Over 10 years later Robert Nappa, unknown to Rachel or Stagg was charged based on DNA and fingerprints .. in court he went on to admit killing Rachael. He had raped and killed a number of women in public parks in the London area over a 10+ year period.

    Stagg's life was ruined due to being wrongly accused, he recieved a piss £750k in compensation from the Home office. He lives in a bedsit, stays in most of the time, unable to lead a normal life since. I wonder how her family felt about Stagg when Nappa was found guilty, and all they said about him in public and to the press.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    In the unsolved Sophie Tuscan DePlantier case some people can't accept her family believing that Ian Bailey did it.

    Yet in this case people accept the family's option when they say what they believe about the individual in question.

    And there is far more circumstantial evidence against Bailey in that case than there is against the individual in this case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,648 ✭✭✭tinpib


    If you want more on that case there is a good book "Napper: Through a Glass Darkly"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,027 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    You see technology used on a lot on archeological digs- indeed even Jeremy Clarkson in the current farm series used technology to determine what parts of his field were more fertile and productive than others- very impressive

    I imagine such ground analysis has come on in leaps and bounds in recent years- so do we reckon Gardai have completed some sort of assessment of the area using modern day soil and ground analysis techniques using technology?

    Obviously it’s probably not a straightforward science but combined with AI, I would imagine there’s “potential” for it to provide some pretty accurate findings



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    I see from RTE television that Crimecall will be examining the Deirdre Jacob case next Monday evening.

    Plus other unsolved mysteries too, of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭Juran




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭LunaLoo


    Has this did concluded or is it still going on? Doesn't seem to be any mentions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭Banjo Carney


    There doesn't seem to be much news about the dig this time. I haven't heard it's ended so I'm assuming it's ongoing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,027 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I do hope there’s a positive outcome - it must be heartbreaking for the families. You would think there’ll be some developments given the extent of the operation - the information provided must have been incredibly solid and detailed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭LunaLoo


    Yes I saw a brief.mention that the dig is continuing. Hopefully they do have solid information that leads to answers and not just a shot in the dark.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭LunaLoo


    Crimecall are renewing the appeal for information on the womans remains found on the Middleton-Youghal greenway. That was such a strange one cos they seem to think she had been in a coffin and possibly illegally exhumed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭julyjane


    Watching crimecall now, why are they so sure other people still have information and that the perpetrator(s) didn't act alone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭spakman


    It doesn't cost them much to make another appeal, so it would be seen as worth it for the very small chance that someone with a guilty conscience comes forward with some info - maybe it's not who we think it is, and the real perpetrator cracks, or confessed to someone else, who cant live with the burden of carrying the secret, or wants to get their own revenge on the killer and decides to take the opportunity to dob him in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Woodcutting


    Didn't see all of it . Did they actually say perpetrators didn't act alone? Could be aimed at passers by .

    Probably just fishing saying JoJo might have been seen getting into the car .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    The man on Crimecall said they were doing this dig "near Castleruddery" and that it is (or may be) connected with both of the missing women, Jacob and Dollard. (If I understood him right)

    Well he probably meant that Either is a possibility, rather than Both.

    Does anyone know the exact location of where they are digging? Like with GPS co-ordinates?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭Polly701


    I sometimes think there are women who know that their husband/partners were acting strangely around the time a woman went missing. And that this is who they are appealing to. Or other family members.

    I thought I read that the woman who was found on the Youghal green way was wearing a white nightdress and a crucifix - something that might have been worn by someone in a coffin - that for some reason she had been removed from her coffin. And that this is why it's not ringing any bells with anyone with regard to her being 'missing'.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    I thought they found so many coffin handles that it looked as if someone had been excavating on the site of a graveyard and had dumped the spoil on this deserted old railway route. Maybe illegally, or just careless, at the corner of a field adjoining a graveyard ? (just guessing)

    And maybe they didn't realise that one of the graves held a more recent burial - this old lady, RIP - and the whole lot got dumped in a pile - planks, handles, and the coffin contents - bones, shroud, a cross and shoes etc,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭Juran


    If the Youghal railway site is next to a cemetary, then it sounds very plausable that the grave was dug and contents of the digger bucket thrown over the wall. But what size of digger bucket would you need not to notice that you had excavated an adult coffin ?



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