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Is this the end for Temu, AliExpress etc?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,011 ✭✭✭long_b


    It'll be difficult for the end user to determine which "fake/pseudo" .ie sites will attract the extra charge, no ?

    This also might scupper my UK Amazon Prime subscription. Pity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭waywill1966


    anyone near the border can just use a parcel motel address in Northern Ireland and get their stuff sent there.

    Post edited by waywill1966 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,286 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    A quick question.

    Say I purchase an item from Amazon UK, sent from a UK warehouse, for 20 / 30 / 40 GBP?

    Will the new rules on the exemption for parcels under €150 apply? Meaning customd duty of €3 per item.

    Or does the EU-UK free-trade agreement supercede it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,771 ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    What free trade agreement? UK is outside the EU and therefore subject to charges. If Amazon bring items into the EU in bulk and pay duty, presumably they don’t charge extra. People will need to keep aneye on checkout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,286 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/relations-united-kingdom/eu-uk-trade-and-cooperation-agreement_en

    The EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement concluded between the EU and the UK sets out preferential arrangements in areas such as trade in goods and in services, digital trade, intellectual property, public procurement, aviation and road transport, energy, fisheries, social security coordination, law enforcement and judicial cooperation in criminal matters, thematic cooperation and participation in Union programmes. It is underpinned by provisions ensuring a level playing field and respect for fundamental rights.

    While it will by no means match the level of economic integration that existed while the UK was an EU Member State, the Trade and Cooperation Agreement goes beyond traditional free trade agreements and provides a solid basis for preserving our longstanding friendship and cooperation.

    The Trade and Cooperation Agreement was signed on 30 December 2020, was applied provisionally as of 1 January 2021 and entered into force on 1 May 2021.

    Free Trade Agreement

    A new economic and social partnership with the United Kingdom

    The agreement covers not just trade in goods and services, but also a broad range of other areas in the EU's interest, such as investment, competition, State aid, tax transparency, air and road transport, energy and sustainability, fisheries, data protection, and social security coordination.

    • It provides for zero tariffs and zero quotas on all goods that comply with the appropriate rules of origin.
    • Both parties have committed to ensuring a robust level playing field by maintaining high levels of protection in areas such as environmental protection, the fight against climate change and carbon pricing, social and labour rights, tax transparency and State aid, with effective, domestic enforcement, a binding dispute settlement mechanism and the possibility for both parties to take remedial measures.
    • The EU and the UK agreed on a new framework for the joint management of fish stocks in EU and UK waters. The UK will be able to further develop British fishing activities, while the activities and livelihoods of European fishing communities will be safeguarded, and natural resources preserved.
    • On transport, the agreement provides for continued and sustainable air, road, rail and maritime connectivity, though market access falls below what the Single Market offers. It includes provisions to ensure that competition between EU and UK operators takes place on a level playing field, so that passenger rights, workers' rights and transport safety are not undermined.
    • On energy, the agreement provides a new model for trading and interconnectivity, with guarantees for open and fair competition, including on safety standards for offshore, and production of renewable energy.
    • On social security coordination, the agreement aims at ensuring a number of rights of EU citizens and UK nationals. This concerns EU citizens working in, travelling or moving to the UK and to UK nationals working in, travelling or moving to the EU after 1st January 2021.
    • Finally, the agreement enables the UK's continued participation in a number of flagship EU programmes for the period 2021-2027 (subject to a financial contribution by the UK to the EU budget), such as Horizon Europe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭dam099


    I think the key bit is "provides for zero tariffs and zero quotas on all goods that comply with the appropriate rules of origin."

    So UK or EU origin goods probably would be exempt but given how much stuff actually originates in China and elsewhere most goods probably wouldn't be covered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Enrico Palazzo


    Aliexpress have now caught up with Temu and added the new tax to the price of all goods shipped by them. Some sellers using their own logistics did the same, others still have only the VAT added. The disappointing thing is that just like on Temu, the tax is applied to every unit sold and not once per every group of products as mandated by the new law, so customers are asked to overpay tax. Fingers crossed that this is only a temporary solution.



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