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  • #12242
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,828 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124571765#Comment_124571765

    PS5 Digital is €600 now (feck me I thought it was about €400) so €500 more for a bundle with a controller.

    What's Plus nowadays? €50? So ten years of membership to break even or say 3-5 years if you buy a lot of games with the savings available on PC games.



  • #12243
    MikeRyan87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭MikeRyan87


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124571620#Comment_124571620

    LOL

    Theyve sold 6m Steam Deck max since it launched?



  • #12244
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 55,070 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Makes a PS5 Pro seem reasonable.

    Honestly don't see why you'd get one over a PlayStation.

    I built my last PC to trounce a PS5 nearly 6 years ago and the specs far outclassed that. 8GB of VRam is not good in this day and age.



  • #12245
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,875 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124571745#Comment_124571745

    Read on Bluesky it was originally meant to be 750 for the base model.

    Still would have found it pretty expensive at that tbh, but would have been a bit more palatable. I'm definitely the type of prime d*ckhead who loves having the new shiny thing (and it's why if I was going to buy it I'd just go for it and get the 2TB model), but just going to have to find something a little less shiny to spend my money on instead, especially when I already have a PS5 Pro, decent enough PC with 4060, and a Steamdeck.



  • #12246
    Anois_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Anois_


    I wonder what the specs are? (CPU and GPU, maybe some AMD APU) I haven't been following it so forgive me. I do own a Series X and a 9850X3D and 9070 PC that really only used for browsing and the odd game. I play majority on Xbox.



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  • #12247
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,875 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124572015#Comment_124572015
    14241.jpg

    https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine

    2TB model is the same other than the SSD



  • #12248
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,017 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Dbrand ad with the Half Life 3 reveal at the end 😂

    21151.png


  • #12249
    Anois_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Anois_


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124572024#Comment_124572024

    I wonder why they didn't go 8 core. It is 2026 after all.



  • #12250
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,631 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Also worth bearing in mind you lose a lot of the upgradability of a standard PC. I believe the only relatively straightforward upgrades are storage and RAM. That’s part of the deal with a console or handheld, but a definite drawback when the machine is already running on an older generation of hardware. A compromise that’d be easier to take if AI companies weren’t hogging memory and driving up prices.



  • #12251
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,007 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124572015#Comment_124572015

    Here's my son's comparrison:

    Steam Deck: 1.63 TFLOPS
    PlayStation 5: 10.28 TFLOPS
    Xbox Series X: 12.1 TFLOPS
    Steam Machine: 17.56 TFLOPS
    PlayStation 5 Pro: 18.05 TFLOPS
    7900 XTX: 61.44 TFLOPS

    The last is cos its in my gaming PC.



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  • #12252
    Anois_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Anois_


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124572039#Comment_124572039

    I used to own a 7900 XTX but sold it while it was still worth something as like I said in post above I play mostly on Xbox. I like to run benchmarks though which is the main reason I own a gaming PC. I like to push the limits of my hardware.



  • #12253
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,828 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    https://twitter.com/i/status/2069105967548203223

    Looks like we can just turn our own PCs into Steam Machines.



  • #12254
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,007 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124572051#Comment_124572051

    I'm the opposite, hardly touch the xbox since building the PC.



  • #12255
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,017 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    New screenshot of Kojima's game OD. He says this will be a new level of horror experience. I just hope it makes it to PlayStation.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/2069144314681139584


  • #12256
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 55,070 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124572162#Comment_124572162

    He seems to have retained ownership of death stranding so hopefully he has a similar deal with MS.



  • #12257
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,017 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124572222#Comment_124572222

    He said Phil Spencer was the only one who saw the vision, wouldn't be surprised if it was agreed as exclusive then but who knows these days.



  • #12258
    SuperBowserWorld
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,353 ✭✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    It's a shame the Steam Machine pricing is so high.

    It's a lovely low power, quiet, tiny living room and desktop gaming PC. You could not build one that size, power consumption and noise level for that price currently.

    So, it's not really a rip off. Blame Sam Alternative Man.



  • #12259
    Grumpypants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    €1039 is way beyond the "I deserve a little present" budget.

    I'd earmarked €600 when first announced as a level I'd be okay with. I've been away from desktop pc gaming for a few years (theres a 1070 in my pc). So this felt like a nice no fuss way to jump back in.

    Even as prices pushed up and a few YouTubers that build PCs started saying it's going to be closer to 700 maybe 800 at a push, I was still at least 80/20 that id get it.

    But it's going to be very hard to pay over a grand for it. My PS5 Pro blows it out of the water so I'm not going to play any high powered games on it. So it will be purely streaming and small indie games.

    I picked up a micro pc on AliExpress for €100 a while back that is a fraction of the size , runs windows, and can handle most simple tasks, streaming, cloud gaming and plays low spec game without a bother. I have the steam deck too that fits that bill.

    So this would be a real unnecessary luxury outlay for a not very luxurious product.

    Their choice of underpowered laptop chip hurts it a lot at this price point. For over a €1000 you would expect €1000 level performance.

    Post edited by Grumpypants on


  • #12260
    Unearthly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,715 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    That’s a shocker of a price but no surprise. Not a chance I’ll be buying that. These prices are not sustainable so best to wait for the bubble to burst



  • #12261
    KilOit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭KilOit


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124572654#Comment_124572654

    could be a while, data centers are only increasing, and the silly amount of data centers planned in US is staggering. China is also up to no good with their ai models sucking everything from the internet. i bought 64GB DDR5 1 year ago for €235, now it's like 3 times that. imagine buying that in bulk if you predicted the market from a year from then



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  • #12262
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 55,070 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I can only imagine the price of the next Gen consoles.

    We will be back in 3DO territory.



  • #12263
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,875 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    We're genuinely at a point where presuming the PS6 won't be released until Nov 2028, you'd have to start putting by 35-40 a month now to have enough saved up by then.



  • #12264
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 55,070 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124572963#Comment_124572963

    I suppose it's a good thing the PS5 still doesn't feel like it's gotten off the ground yet.

    I just wish Sony would re-think their PC strategy so I can save money on another console generation.



  • #12265
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,631 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    There will be an AI industry crash, because the numbers involved are made-up gibberish and barely any companies are making any significant revenue from their endless investment and resource hogging. It’s one of the most bubbly of economic bubbles. How long it’ll take to burst is the question.

    That said, I don’t think there’s any harm in consoles sticking around a bit longer - given the diminishing returns in compute power, it feels like the generational jumps are less significant every time. And development times are getting so long that some studios are barely managing to get games out within a console’s traditional lifespan. That said, I still think the price tags for next gen are going to be mental unless the bubble finally bursts in the next year or so.



  • #12266
    Grumpypants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    I'm delighted I bought the PS5 Pro at launch. At the time, I thought it was crazy money, but now it looks like the bargain of a life time.



  • #12267
    Cordell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,643 ✭✭✭Cordell


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124572983#Comment_124572983

    There will be an AI industry crash

    *not limited to AI industry.



  • #12268
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 55,070 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124573092#Comment_124573092

    It's more a question of when and how much it will **** up everyone's pensions and savings.



  • #12269
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,875 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124573121#Comment_124573121

    There was a shoe manufacturing company which decided to stop making shoes and instead became an AI-focused company.

    So yeah… we're all f*cked.



  • #12270
    Grumpypants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    I joined the waiting list just in case…..I fully accept I have a hardware buying problem. 😥



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  • #12271
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,108 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Just wondering, will games on Steam now require to be optimised for the Machine? Would that affect dev time/costs? It's a low bar, especially for more modern games. So i assume some future games won't be compatible/optimised unless Steam force them, which defeats the purpose of developing on pc imo. Is it the same with the Deck?



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