US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

I'm just an anonymous poster on an obscure internet forum - I don't have a strategy - simply stating the painful reality.

Personalising the discussion or brandishing the Antisemite Card is an exercise in futility.

The reality is that Trump wants the war over before the global economy crashes.

Netanyahu wants perpetual war in order to realise the Greater Israel project.

While Israel continues to occupy southern Lebanon the Hormuz Strait will remain closed - with predictable consequences for the global economy.

One doesn't need to be a brilliant political strategist to understand that Trump will have to put manners on Netanyahu.

And he'll need to put manners on Netanyahu fairly lively - because we're rapidly reaching the point of no return.

J D Vance laid it on the line for the Israelis the other day - reminded them who's really in charge.

Make no mistake, the US and Iran will do a deal that bypasses Israel and Netanyahu will just have to suck it up.

Furthermore, now that America has proved itself incapable of defending it's allies in the region, it's a certainty the Gulf states will reach a modus vivendi with Iran, further isolating Israel and leaving them surrounded by adversaries.

Provoking an unnecessary American attack on Iran has proved to be a strategic disaster for Israel.

America has a pathway out of this catastrophe, however humiliating it might be - Israel doesn't.

The clock is ticking - it's the beginning of the end.

How can anybody continue to defend this scumbag? He just threatened the Iranians negotiating in Switzerland.

Speaking to Fox News, the US president also threatened to take over the Hormuz strait and appeared to threaten to kidnap the Iranian negotiators, saying: “You close it and you won’t have a country. You won’t even make it back to your **** country.”

Trump’s threats prompted the negotiators to walk out of the high-stakes discussions in protest. The comments also contrasted with the tone of Vance, who hailed progress during the first round of the direct US-Iran talks after their initial deal and said Trump had asked him to use the negotiations to turn over a “new leaf” with Iran.

Some tankers leaving the strait this morning. Probably Trumps threats yesterday will not of eased Western insurers and shipowners reluctance to move out yet.

China set up it's own ship and cargo insurance business a few years ago for those who were prevented from buying insurance because of sanctions and Iran has also started offering insurance services which just started a few weeks ago.

The big test for oil will be to see how many are willing to enter through the strait given the chance of being stranded

America has today allowed Iran to sell oil to them legally and use USD banking and insurance services if they so wish. How kind of them to do that for them, it's as if the US is the only country in the world that want's to buy oil and no one else does.

The U.S. Department of the Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) has officially issued an Iran-related temporary 60-day general license authorizing the production, delivery, and sale of Iranian-origin oil, petrochemicals, and petroleum products through August 21, 2026.

The license grants a provision in the memorandum of understanding (MOU) signed last week between Washington and Tehran to establish an emerging nuclear and war-ending framework.

It permits the export and importation of Iranian-origin crude oil, petroleum products, derivatives, and petrochemicals into the United States.

The waiver covers essential support operations like banking transactions, insurance, and maritime transportation services (such as vessel management, bunkering and Piloting)

Trump is so tough with ordinary people in his own country and allies like Denmark and Canada but when the billionaires turn up he’s more private dancer than president:

All of that is to assume Israel continues to enjoy American support -something that's not at all certain.

It's now clear that Trump is unwilling to trade global economic stability for Israeli security.

Iran is the new kid on the block and is in a better position now than ever before to put manners on Israel - and the United States won't intervene, because the United States can't intervene - remember, Hormuz is the joker in the pack.

The population of Palestine is split 50/50 between Arabs and Jews - take away the recreational Israelis, the powerbrokers of the settler colonial experiment, and it doesn't take a genius to see the writing on the wall.

Israel surrounded on all sides by adversaries, no American money or weaponry or diplomatic cover - and most important of all, hundreds of thousands of vengeful Gazans who have nothing left to lose, and armed to the teeth by Iran.

Squeaky bum time in the settler colonial plantation - yes ?

I would love to hear Trump blame Netanyahu for their failed Joint Operation Epic Fury. It's not a flight of fancy to think Netanyahu will blame former Israeli PM Ehud Olmert for laying the groundwork for his continuing genocidal policies. There is something going on when they turn on each other. Ehud has been writing opinion pieces in Haaretz.

However, Ehud Olmert stops short of saying GENOCIDE has been committed...

A cynical person might think Ehud Olmert is trying to whitewash his own complicity as chief architect of the “SLOW-MOTION” GENOCIDE against Palestinians

The historical record is mirror-clear. And as I speak, historians are actively documenting the ongoing genocide and pointing right back to Olmert’s tenure (2006 until 2009, when Netanyahu succeeded him).

Historians have already pointed to below 3 MAJOR actions and policies during his godawful tenure:

(1) Olmert's admin sanctioned the mathematically calculated minimum number of calories needed to keep Gaza s population alive. - 2,279 calories per day to avoid outright malnutrition.

It’s the literal blueprint for what has happened in Gaza, since 7/10, under Netanyahu - engineered starvation as a weapon of war.

The Hague will point to Olmert’s policy as historical proof of intentional, systematic deprivation. It was done to enforce the broader BLOCKADE, that Olmert approved and oversaw as PM.

(2) PM Olmert initiated the land, sea, and air BLOCKADE of the Gaza Strip - fuel, electricity, medicine and commercial... He shut down entry points. And;

(3) Operation Cast Lead (commenced on 27 December 2008) - the massive 22-day military assault on Gaza was totally disproportionate (aerial bombings, destruction of infrastructure...). 300 children were killed. Large areas razed to the ground: https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/mde150152009en.pdf

^ PM Ehud Olmert’s approved policies have been called out as being disproportionate. And I note Hamas is bad.

Overall, the buck stops entirely with Ehud Olmert.

"Opinion: Israel Is Conducting a Systematic Campaign of Ethnic Cleansing and Crimes Against Humanity in the West Bank"

"These are unprecedented and harsh accusations against the Israeli government and the defense establishment, especially from a former prime minister. But after years of restraint, I have no choice but to make them"

Ehud Olmert, June 18, 2026
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2026-06-18/ty-article-opinion/.premium/israel-is-conducting-a-systematic-campaign-of-ethnic-cleansing-in-the-west-bank/0000019e-db02-d7a4-a99f-dfce00a20000

Starry: I can't see Trump ever being made accountable. He's too rich.

America needs a major reset in its relationship with Israel: cut the Israel Lobby down to size, register AIPAC as a foreign agent, reduce aid.

Israel is now surrounded by unrepresentative dictatorships.

If and when those countries become democracies ,how kindly will they look upon an expansionist neighbour in their midst?

Tomorrow is a long time .

Will the Arab populations look at what happened to Gaza and say,"well after October 7 they had it coming?"

Will they similarly excuse the West Bank hegemony as necessary for Israel's defence in depth?

I fear greatly for Israel's survival-and in the not too distant future with the advent of drone warfare.

I think the Jewish would consider it a problem if they were no longer the majority. It would no longer be israel, the only Jewish state. This is why the israelis are trying to have their cake and eat it, not have a Palestinian state but not allow the Palestinians to vote in israel elections.

I dont think its an attractive place for immigration now as near constant war for 2 years and surrounded by either enemies, unstable democracies or dictatorships. The middle East will continue to be a basket case for many years.