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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,531 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    I thought I was thoroughly sick of RTE but now I really am. I see D’Arcy crying again about not being renewed. Ray, you knew your contract end date. When they didn’t offer you a new one 3 months out etc, you knew you were done. He’s just short of Enoch Burke turning up to ‘report for work’ with this carry on. You’re a big boy Ray, suck it up.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,327 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Why is Ray making you 'really sick of RTE' if he doesn't work there anymore?

    Surely that would make you less sick of RTE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,159 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,327 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    There's lots of talented people working in RTE, they shouldn't be denigrated.

    It's a popular past time in Ireland to denigrate people who do a good job.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    No-one is criticising people who are doing a good job.

    People are criticising those who aren’t*, and an organisation which through revelations made public via The Ryan Tubridy Pay Scandal showed that organisation to be extremely wasteful of public money - be that overpaying staff and “talent”, junkets and freebies, etc. as well as said organisation’s management astonishing display of arrogance before, during and after the Oireachtas hearing that gave us such unforgettable highlights.


    *riddle me this - do you believe every single employee in RTÉ is going a good job, performing optimally, and delivering value for money? You won’t answer of course.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,159 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Each employee still has a civic duty much like the rest of us, they should be aware of a very public company, I am sure many of them saw the waste and continue to see the waste and should be as public as they can be about their views of the management.

    Indeed at the top level of the board argue that thing that happen are "a fait accompli", no joined up thinking and no critics at the table.

    It is not a popular pastime in Ireland to denigrate anyone doing a good job. RTÉ in terms of content is not good, but you have yet to give an opinion otherwise.

    What was the last non-sport/non-news/non-current affairs programme you actually watched on RTÉ?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    I see they are still showing EastEnders. That should be cancelled right away.

    I mean, who Watches this low class trash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,159 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    That would be an issue for the BBC, but RTÉ at this point should have drop it from its schedule long ago, there are other better BBC Studio programmes that it could choose. Let VMTV have EastEnders. (RTÉ should probable never have taken it from TV3 in the first place).

    But then RTÉ haven't yet made the bold move of moving Fair City to 7 on Tuesdays and Thursdays, clashing with Emmerdale has cause its audience to fall of a cliff.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,327 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    RTE is seen as the ultimate establishment institution and as such is a major target for political extremists.

    Much of the criticism of it is thinly veiled far-right bias and imported American libertiarianism.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    As you were prone to saying there for a few weeks - “lol”.

    Now you’re equating criticism of RTÉ to being “far-right”? I bet you were in favour of Helen McEntee’s proposed Hate Speech laws. 🙄

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    I was at Metallica on Friday and going back again tonight - saw quite a few RTÉ heads around blocks 303-307 on freebies no doubt. Saw a few Bauer heads too in the same area.

    I flew to London yesterday morning for a short trip overnight and now back in Heathrow where I’m just finishing Conor Niland’s autobiography that I started yesterday. It’s not the most taxing book I’ve ever read so to speak and typical of many sports autobiographies in its simple prose.

    The Toyman gets a mention. Niland was a guest on TLLS and describes Tubs as being (from memory) “nervous and agitated”. Intriguing.

    if I have a moment and I can find the page I’ll take a photo.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,327 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    RTOD

    Meanwhile the far-right libertarians want RTE sold off and run like some subscription service, Irenews standing or failing depending on whether or not it tells 'the Irish people' what they wanf to hear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,991 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Disturbing story in today’s Sindo about the number of incidents of threats, and harassment, against RTÉ staff. Everyone is entitled to go to work and not be abused, and intimidated, by thugs and swivel-eyed loons. A lot of this “activity” has moved online and there’s a cohort of pathetic losers who feel they can abuse public figures with impunity online.

    I see Graham Norton has won a case against Meta in his fight to discover who is the weirdo behind an account spreading rumours about him. More of this needed.

    Hopefully a digital ID will lift the lid on who these social outcasts really are. I believe in freedom of speech, as much as the next person, but that shouldn’t extend to harassment, unfair criticism, or the questioning of vaccine mandates.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Are you suggesting posters on this thread are “thugs and swivel eyed loons” or “pathetic losers” and “social outcasts”?

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    The digital ID idea is intriguing. It would also potentially help identify those operating multiple IDs via VPNs and other means for nefarious reasons.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,991 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Are you suggesting posters on this thread are “operating multiple IDs via VPNs and other means for nefarious reasons”?

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    I’ll answer that after you answer my question, which you won’t of course.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Would you be so kind as to provide a link to the article you refer to above which despite looking for I cannot find?

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,426 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I would suggest that all this is fake news .

    The Taxpayer has been ridden roughshod by RTE as recent happenings and disclosures have uncovered.

    There is no way this can be denied and therefore the taxpayer is quite entitled to criticise.

    Time to get real here and stop the arseboxing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,159 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://extra.ie/2026/06/21/news/rte-staff-incidents

    Jan to Sep 2025

    34 cases of 3rd party violence

    16 phone calls, 4 emails, 4 cases of stalking/harassment, 3 cases of verbal abuse/threats/aggression towards employees and 3 cases of anti-social behaviour, 1 case of physical assault/pushing shoving, 1 case of trespassing (none of these 31 cases would change if new rules were introduced to social media).

    Just 2 threatening social media posts were also logged, any new rules would possibly not change this either. I am missing one case?

    All staff were supported and any that required garda investigation were reported to the gardaí.

    Overall 78 cases were reported.

    health safety due to working environment: -

    Accidents - 15 (4 - staff hit by falling or moving object, 3 - staff hit against something fixed or stationary, 3 slips, trips and falls, 2 cases of twists/turn of body, 2 phyical stress or strain and 1 hot liquid spill).

    18 other near misses, 7 illnesses and 3 undesirable circumstances.

    It would be interesting to read the full report and the incidences involved.

    This seems like a standard report that any organization would carry out. How many Social Welfare officers have been threatened in the course of their work, how many nurses, doctors, teachers or anyone dealing with the public on a day-to-day basis. This does in anyway dismiss the report by RTÉ but RTÉ is one of many organization including other semi-state bodies that would come across someone antagonistic towards them.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,327 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    "The Taxpayer has been ridden roughshod by RTE as recent happenings and disclosures have uncovered."

    What recent disclosures have uncovered the taxpayer being ridden roughshod?

    The redesignation of certain presenter-producers by RTE and disclosed by them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,159 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    The decision by RTÉ to make their CFO redundant even though the role was not being made redundant.

    The decision by RTÉ to invest in the Toy show the musical "in away" that was not consistent with general governance resulting in most of the board saying it was a "fait accompli".

    Their continued decision to suggest that their "talent" were worth the money the were on and that at all cost that "talent" should be mollycoddled, resulting in their commerical director suggesting that one agent would pay invoice for "consultancy fees" to barter account in the UK via his UK company.

    The 'overvaluation' of talent. The cutting of core public services such as "children's content", "drama", "comedy", most any of the programmes designated for RTÉ2, along with reduced schedule for other programming such as NEWS and current affairs.

    and on and on and on

    I mean you must agree that they have a 'civic duty' to run the national broadcaster correctly.

    In the last 3 years, what have the done? I see no change.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    The gulf between what I expected after reading the above and the piece kindly shared by @RoTelly is gargantuan.

    The last time I witnessed such exaggeration was in the following:

    https://www.irishpost.com/news/ryan-tubridy-labelled-ft-while-walking-with-his-daughter-by-man-who-squared-up-to-him-on-street-218504

    Only the “man” turned out to be an approx 11-14 year old kid who had recorded the “incident” (🙄) and posted it on Tik Tok……and there was no squaring up, the phrase was said aloud as Tubs walked past, to which The Toyman replied “that wasn’t very nice was it?” (or something similar).

    No withdrawal of course of the original version after the video emerged, or apology, or explanation that it was perhaps a misunderstanding. Strange, he was still the most trusted man in Ireland at this point. 🤷‍♂️

    I’ve been on the receiving end of some very nasty messages and threats made via PM by cowardly re-regs on this very site. And more than once. I have also been threatened and abused publicly too by one assumes those very same re-regs. And I have the receipts for same. Do you condemn that behaviour, or is it ok because I’m the target?

    Should I go the Gardai about these - to use your own descriptors - “thugs and swivel eyed loons”, “pathetic losers”, “social outcasts”?

    Or do you only use those descriptors when it’s people you support? Rather like how you support free speech as long as you agree with what is being said?

    Intriguing.


    Metallica was great fwiw.

    Post edited by Peter Dragon on

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    in relation to to the following:

    Accidents - 15 (4 - staff hit by falling or moving object, 3 - staff hit against something fixed or stationary, 3 slips, trips and falls, 2 cases of twists/turn of body, 2 phyical stress or strain and 1 hot liquid spill).


    was there any detail in the report as to whether any claims were made against RTÉ in relation to the above?

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,159 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    No nothing. I'd like to see all public bodies publish all FoI'd documents on their websites, I believe they are are only required to list the FoI requests.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    I think this information is needed tbh, esp. if compensation claims are made and paid for people “hitting” into fixed objects etc.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,327 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Part of the anti-RTE sentiment undoubtedly is down to the station’s positivity about Irish society.

    This attitude angers the naysayers who populate the internet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,159 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    How do you mean?

    I'd argue that most of the progressive class was raised on BBC 2 and Channel 4 TBH, and that cable, our US and UK cousins / family members also did more to change Ireland, that RTÉ really ever did.

    If you look at RTÉ its schedules at the beginning inundated with US programming, later followed by UK and Australian programming. Few exports to other English speaking countries.

    There really are no naysayers, there are critics of an organisation that badly let their audience down.

    As I say RTÉ had a civic duty to provide a public service broadcasters but they ultimately failed to do this.

    You can talk about naysayers and begrugers till the cows come home, but unless you give good examples of the greatness of RTÉ then I am sorry such labels won't stick.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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