Economical 4x4

A neighbour has a volkswagen touareg, It's fairly old, I presume it's 330 tax, 3 litre engine and 3.5 ton towing. They can be got 4 wheel drive but dont know about his, Probably can be bought cheaply

I was considering a VW Touareg or Audi Q7. The ones I have seen advertised seem to be available in 2016-2019 with 5 seats and windows as a commercial. Compared to the ordinary version they just seem to have the back 2 seats removed and maybe a flat floor added in the boot.

Originally would these need to have had a bulkhead added so that the passenger and boot sections were separate in order to be classified as N1 commercial? Would this cause any problem doing the CVRT?

yes I think that was the case with Landrover Discovery. The Toyota Land Cruiser Business was commercial from factory. I just wasn’t sure about Touareg and Q7. And the Discovery would be too unreliable and the Land Cruiser too expensive.

There must have been a change in law around 2019.

Yes the Touareg and I presume the Q7 were available between 2016 and 2018 as commercials. It was a loophole, which got closed up in 2018. They were identical in every way to the passenger version, nothing added or taken away, apart from costing a lot less and 333 to tax.

what do you think of the pick up ‘s @Bass Reeves

if replacing the RAV4 again would you go for something like a L200 again or will you stick with the SUV’s?

Electric jeeps haven’t really been put to the test here yet. If your buying new the basic DMax would cost you around the same in the long run and you’d know what they are capable of.

For anyone doing real work, it's a more important question of how capable will it be in action. Do 40k km in Hilux here for approx €3.5k plus vat on diesel. About €1200 on servicing.

Not going to massively change the profits here if that could be reduced but if real range with trailer was significantly reduced over advertised range, it wouldn't actually be possible to run bar charging during the day at fast chargers

Range is the thing that is most important .

What is the range with towing 1- 2tonne driving busy road . I think if you drove a steady 50km /hour with load on level road summer time v 65km /hour with load on a hilly road in winter time would have a massive impact on range.

Could you get one for test drive even for a day would tell you all you need to know.

Massive gamble for a large amount of money buying blind ,you also need at least 8- 10% in reserve in battery or you will end up in limp mode ,battery will also degrade a few % annually.

I bought Kangoo ev and it is econimically impressive with night rate electric but have not towed .