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NCT Query - Smoke

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭GavPJ




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭chases0102


    I am not actually sure - he just said sensor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Probably the MAF sensor (Mass Air Flow).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭GavPJ


    Car would be completely down on power and would be really hard to rev out while driving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Or the air intake pressure sensor? I had one of those giving an error but the problem was a hole in the intercooler pipe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭GavPJ


    My money is on an intercooler pipe. Had a 508 failing the emissions a few months ago.

    No black smoke, wasn't down on power. Tried diptane, HVO, driving it for an hour before

    the test and still no joy. Tried this method twice. It actually went up on the second attempt.

    Turned out a small hole in an intercooler pipe. Changed the pipe, put more

    diptane and HVO in for good measure and it sailed through. Went from 1.7 to 0.12.

    DPF had been removed from this car too. Not sure if it had a remap but FC uk this car

    was quick. Standard it made 150bhp but I think it was up over 170.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭chases0102


    I have already had the sensor replaced. Should a mechanic notice the pipe needing to be replaced? It is my first time using this mechanic, so don't really have a sense re reliability….concern is that diagnostics showed up faulty sensor and that is what he just decided was the problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭GavPJ


    If it is a small hole, he might not see it. I didn't when the 508 I had was failing on emissions.

    I only seen it after I was replacing a leaking water hose. Only way to know for sure if it is a

    leaking intercooler/boost pipe is to take them off and inspect them and that can be time consuming.

    All you can do now is run it through again. But make to use diptane and HVO this time.

    Make sure you let us know how you get on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭Guy1ncognito


    removing/ deleting a DPF is illegal, raving the **** out of the thing won’t fix it. You’re problem is diesels aren’t designed for short journeys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,277 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    You and another idiotic poster are just assuming they have deleted the DPF. Driving a diesel car hard before the test can most certainly get rid of excess smoke



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Kevindiyer


    But if dpf was still in it . It would have pass smoke test because car with dpf still in reading on smoke test very low sometimes even 0 .0 so if car with dpf fail smoke test it removed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Kevindiyer


    If still had dpf it would be blocked solid with smoke reading like that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,277 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Completely incorrect. There are a multitude of reasons why a diesel car would have excessive smoke. And there are hundreds of thousands of cars with no DPF passing the NCT on an annual basis with no excessive smoke. Both from factory and being removed illegally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭Guy1ncognito


    The OP stated that the car failed on smoke/emissions. The OP also said that the car is used mainly for short journeys. Your Prof Pat pending advise is that the OP should rev the guts out of the car for a prolonged period. That won’t do anything only waste fuel and or blow the head gasket. It was also suggested at one stage that driving at 120kph in 3rd gear will fix the problem, ok right but what happens when the clutch or gear box gives out. Regarding the DPF I merely said deleting them is illegal. Why don’t you take your opinions and stuff them up your arse, assuming you can get off the armchair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I foresee a relatively short career here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,277 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Revving an engine for a few seconds is not going to cause any damage to the engine. Thats what rev limiters are for. I didn't suggest to drive at 120 in 3rd gear. Thats probably not even possible in most cars. But in any case driving the car hard and to the red line isn't going to cause any damage to the car, especially not the clutch or gearbox. Its been well documented on here and elsewhere that driving a diesel car hard after a failed smoke test can result in a pass if the car hasn't been driven hard in a while.

    Real world example any time I drove my Dads transit it will billow out smoke from the exhaust since he never drove it hard enough. He failed his DOE and subsequently passed his retest after I gave it a hard drive for a few minutes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭Guy1ncognito




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Kevindiyer


    And who saying there isn't no one. Just saying vehicle with dpf working won't fail smoke test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Orban6


    The DPF in my car is cracked. Give it a good rev up to 3000 and it spurts out black soot.

    Passes smoke test every time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,406 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    It doesn’t, but a common reason why the DPF is removed in the first instance is because the engine was smoky and blocking the filter.



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