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General Race Thread 2026 **spoilers**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,837 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Think Pog is literally trying to win every (conceivable) major UCI one day and stage race, once thats done he will probably retire. Its why i think hes doing all these random races this year, Romandie, Suisse etc.

    Roubaix & Vuelta are the 2 big, big ones left



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,288 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Pog is exactly the type of rider most of us love. He attacks, he tries every day, he gives it a go on days that don’t seem to suit him.

    But it’s not fun watching a race be over 50km from the finish and that happens more often than not

    Not his fault, but such is sport



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,122 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Any doubts I had about whether he was entertaining enough to be able to ignore the dominance disappeared in Paris last year. He was the only one with anything to lose on a miserable, wet and went for the win purely because of the glory and prestige on offer.

    Roubaix is the big one for him obviously, and maybe picking up a sixth Tour to make history. At the minute, he can win the Vuelta any time he likes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭MangleBadger


    I just can't understand how the other teams don't work together more to bring him back in. They'll put 1 domestique on the front to pull. But no single rider is pulling Pog back. They need to be rolling turns and all working together, but they never do. It's not like the stage was particularly difficult.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,854 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Pull him back for what ?

    To lose on GC anyway another day.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭MangleBadger




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,854 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    For 2nd and minor jerseys which is what they are resigned to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭MangleBadger


    On a seperate topic… Is Sam completely done? Halfway into the year and besides a 3rd a Region Pays de la Loire he has basically DNF'd everything.

    Surely it can't take this long to build fitness back?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,837 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    He's actually at the baloise belgiun tour and is ostensibly the leader based on the bibs, but has been nowhere on the first 2 sprints.

    His recent results on PCS are grim

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Macy0161


    And still valuable in terms of individual and team points.

    fwiw I am hopeful of JV at least making a fight of the tour this year. I mean a big deal is made of Pogi breaking his wrist in Liege in 2023, Jonas' crash in Itzulia 24 was career (and life) threatening, and then he topped it up with the concussion in Paris Nice last year. This year is the first since his last win he has had a clear run at it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Wout being out is a huge loss though. But yeah, hoping at least for an incident-free fair fight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    They're hardly even trying for that. Take Pog out of the equation and Carapaz / Bagioli have a very healthy advantage over the others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    He could be in for a tough time with his other half Urska Zigart after having an awful crash yesterday - broke her jaw I think.

    She's a funny rider anyway, doesn't like riding in a bunch, rides way at the back the whole time, which can make cycling life more difficult and more dangerous.

    On the man himself, I'd echo previous sentiments. Domination is boring. Pete Sampras, Michael Schmumacher. Fair play to them and everything but they turned me away from their respective sports. I wouldn't be rushing home to watch a race Pog is in anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭jack01986


    I'd like to see some of the teams work together on attacking Pog it'll never happen but if they could repeat what Jumbo did with Ving & Roglic a few years back that'd be exciting. But maybe he's too strong now and that won't work anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,122 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    An issue with that is that Vingegaard is, realistically, his only rival. Maybe Seixas will be, but the only one he has any reason to keep an eye on is Jonas. He simply has no reason to be worried about Remco or any of the others when it comes to the mountains.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,288 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Adam Rafferty 10th on the queen stage in the baby giro. He’s up to 8th in GC

    Irish participation down to just himself after the death of Shane O’Brien meant Liam pulled out. I think it’s why David Gaffney dropped out too. All understandable of course



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,288 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Jamie Meehan 7th on the final stage of the Route d’Occitanie. He was 4th on GC. Great result and he must be in contention for a spot in the Vuelta for Cofidis now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭sxt


    He maintains an unwavering, explosive peak from the cold gravel of Strade Bianche in March to the high-lbaltitude passes of the Tour de France in July, all the way to autumn Classics in October. In the history of sports science, a cyclist going at 100% capacity for eight straight months without a single day of weakness is a neon red flag

    Pogacars year round, unyielding dominance naturally forces a cynical conclusion.if a performance looks too good to be true in cycling, history tells us it usually is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke


    I actually feel the opposite. I am a lot more suspicious of cyclists who are bang average for a lot of the year and then great for 3 weeks.

    And Pogacars peaks this year have a decent gap between them. The classics and July. I don't think you can say that he's going at 100% all year. He looks a lot better this week than he did at Romandy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    I agree, I think JV will put up a stronger challenge this year( WvA being out is a massive blow though), don't think it's a certainty that Pog wins this year, obviously the favourite, but, one bad day could change things. He was obviously suffering from a bit of fatigue in the last week last year, but, was so far ahead it didn't matter. If JV is close or even ahead going into the last week, it would make it very interesting this year. Then of course there's always the possibility of illness, injury or a mechanical at a bad time that could tip the balance one way or the other.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭sxt


    Traditional training logic says a rider can hold a true peak for perhaps 4 to 6 weeks. To win a 215km gravel classic in March, drop historic climbing VAM numbers on 2,000-meter peaks in July, and solo away to win a grueling 250km Monument in October requires an unprecedented physiological ceiling.

    ​The statement isn't hyperbole; it is a literal description of Tadej Pogačar's palmarès.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke


    You're also describing the perfect gaps between peaks - 12 weeks. I'm far from an expert, but to my understanding peaking at those 3 times are eminently achievable. In fact i imagine a lot of the riders you see in the Ardennes try and peak 3 times.



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