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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭baconsarnie


    The "get behind the manager" is the biggest load of cod I've ever heard. It is tantamount to not being able to offer an opinion on the direction of travel of Cavan GAA and just accepting as is. All hail Dermot.

    Our underage development has been a shambles for over a decade. FACT.

    We won 2 games this sason: FACT

    A number of players who were on the panel were not brought in that would have made the team stronger: FACT

    We have shown a repeated inability to see out tight games: FACT

    All this nonsense of "getting behind the manager"…why? Has he made the slightest effort to sell his "vision" to the people who are supposed to be turning out in droves to support him? He is an All Star legend of a footballer who is very intelligent, a very impressive speaker and yet we know absolutely nothing about him because he won't talk to our local media. Which speaks ill of him having very thin skin (which is a prerequisite for a manager).

    If the manager wants us to get behind him, the least he could do is do some explaining on what he's done so far this season. I've been at most of the games, there's not much to cling onto as a supporter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭baconsarnie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭Thunderbirds


    It's 1984 stuff where fans are being told that we put it up to a division 3 team and lost by 11 points as a sign of progress. Don't believe the evidence of your eyes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    The bar is constantly being moved lower and lower. Soon we’ll be told that we are over achieving by being in Division 3 rather than 4.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭mogue77


    see what Louth are doing with there development squads and schools real progress and forward thinking there not like what is going on in Cavan! Who gives a toss about a super stadium but we all want decent teams that have the best players in the county playing and are prepared to the best possible standards that they can be ! Then they will have no problem raising money or selling tickets but I know I won’t be buying anymore tickets for a white elephant project until they put football first.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    I raised here last year about what even Fermanagh are doing - county coaches regularly going into the schools, taking development squad players for intensive sessions and players being bussed to training directly from school.

    I said then that if we aren’t even competing with Fermanagh, we’re in trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭✭celt262


    How are Fermangh getting on in Ulster competitions?

    Are these Development squads working in the majority of counties or are they just leading to lads been overlooked and then having little or no chance of making a county panel later on? They are been used by clubs who have coaches involved to get as many of there own club lads on the panels so you would wonder what the actual point of the whole thing is.

    The GDM even said himself that they are developing players for the clubs and not county panels and they would be lucky to get 1 or 2 any year to go on and play Senior for Cavan.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭mylestheslasher


    He would know all about developing players for clubs wouldnt he, or rather Club singular.

    How do you propose a county should develop players for county level if not using a development squad system - which incidentally we do use, just we have been executing very poorly. Also, if things are done right all you need is 1/2 coming though every year is it not?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭✭celt262


    They need to be ran properly to be worthwhile look at the progress Louth have made by investing in coaching in schools and there squads and that is a county which would have a big enough pull towards soccer aswell.

    On your last point, yes if it is done right but they players need to not just be brought through they need to be good enough to play intercounty Senior football, we have lads who are on the panel now and its debatable if they are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭mylestheslasher


    Agree. And I think to make sure players are of the best standard possible we need coaches sent to clubs and schools to bring up the standards there and make sure basic skills on both sides is being worked on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Fermanagh have very little to work with but at least they are making an effort.

    What other counties are you aware of that coaches are using squads to develop players from their own clubs?

    As others have said, unless you’ve a very strong squad, 1-2 players is all you’d to get from an underage squad. You are however bringing up the quality level in the county.

    If you don’t like the current method, what’s your alternative system to develop players for juvenile squads and eventually senior?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭✭celt262


    They should be done right as per my previous post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Well you know who is responsible for running them. As others have said here, our development plans have amounted to copying other counties templates poorly.

    The ‘dads and lads’ approach that was attempted at one stage turned out to be an absolute mess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭baconsarnie


    Not only has our development been a shambles, no one seems to care (or are too afraid to say anything about it).

    Would also be useful if the paid employee responsible for it gave some public pronouncements on what the plan was, what approach we were taking as a county and why. Nothing too radical.

    Wouldn't mind something similar for our senior county team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭mylestheslasher


    Quite extraordinary that at a Co Board meeting the day after our senior mens disastrous season ends, brought ZERO conversation or questions on the season as a whole. Even I am shocked by that. What a bunch of gutless pussies our Clubs and Club delegates are. Delegates should take up knitting or something harmless like that. What a joke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭mylestheslasher


    I see Ollie Bellew stepped down as Hurling Manager. Jesus, maybe they should appoint Dermot McCabe to that role too?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭Thunderbirds




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭baconsarnie


    That was just extraodinary. I could not believe it. We've just had the worst season in decades and it wasn't even flagged?? What is the point of having a county board if they are not having the county team on the agenda.

    I think we can firmly conclude that there is no interest in football in our county any more. Scandal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭✭celt262


    You should get signed in as a proxy for the next one and tell them what you think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    It’s quite easy for people to sit on an anonymous forum and comment on others and their actions.

    Go along and declare your own name and club in public and convey your opinions in front of those assembled before you label others.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭mylestheslasher


    I doubt they'd be too interested in my club in Sligo but I tell you one thing, there would be fireworks if I went in there so feel free to get your club to nominate me and ill show you what having a pair of balls looks like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Why would my club nominate an individual we know nothing about?

    You have a club in Cavan don’t you? What is the problem with asking them to nominate you on a proxy?

    The other note to add is you don’t live in the county. So you’re offering to come in from Sligo, deliver your “fireworks” with your big “balls” and disappear off again?

    Not all heroes wear capes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭mylestheslasher


    Yes it would be much better someone living in the county to speak up but from where im standing I see you and your club proud of your cowardice and afraid of losing what exactly if you speak up. But bottom line you are Cowards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭rrs


    =

    It was the day after the Dublin game. They were there to do the draw for the club championship. They will probaly meet next week regarding the season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭Thunderbirds




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭rrs


    Probably had more time to reflect with the Hurlers. They were knocked out a few weeks,and Ollie Bellew seemed to indicate he would be stepping down as senior manager when they exited the championship.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    You say you live in Sligo and are connected a club. They lost to Fermanagh by 22 points last week in the Tailteann.

    I look forward to reading the headlines when you deliver your attack on their board. They seem to be in a worse situation than us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭Thunderbirds




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭rrs


    Cuchulainns beating Crosserlough a surprise result tonight. Crosserlough had been unbeaten. Lynch is in America. Any others missing?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭mylestheslasher


    Sligo has a smaller population than Cavam and does not have the history or culture of football that Cavan has. Sligo Town is primarily soccer town with Sligo Rovers the dominant force. Yet they still employee a Games Development Manager and 4 full time coaches - one for North, South, East and West. The result against Fermanagh was their worst in decades. Unlike Cavan there will be a heated discussion on that at County Board level I am certain. I dont need to go as the clubs here will do it themselves as they should. For all of the above, Sligo have been competitive against the odds in Connacht and generally punch above their weight. So no, not in as bad a state as Cavan.

    Anyway, enough of the deflection away from the Cowardice of Co Board delegates and your own club as a perfect example. Maybe you can tell us all, what is the terrible thing the County Board can do to Crosserlough should they dare ask a question at a Co Board meeting? Is it something as petty as refuse to change an Underage fixture for you? I am intrigued what makes Crosserlough men cower behind their sofas, 20 years ago when I was about Cavan they were fearless men up there in Killnaleck, just wondering what happened to those men?



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