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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

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  • #16682
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    Oh... I think the non Irish are being prioritised.... https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1LqBbgq75H/



  • #16683
    Ozymandius2011
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,736 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    The more other countries tighten controls and we dont, I think the more asylum seekers will come here instead.

    Sweden is looking at forcing public sector workers to inform on undocumented migrants.

    Things have definitely changed in Sweden under the conservative government. It's not so many years since it usually had leftwing governments that were always being castigated on Fox News as soft on migration.

    But I think some of this also relates to the mishandling of gang violence such as on Linkoping. A police officer who linked the issue to migration was disciplined. This was big news on Fox. An earlier report in which I think officers spoke to Fox on it was part of the background. I think it backfired on the Left and contributed to the rise of the populist Right Sweden Democrats, which grew to 18%.

    Article from 2023 on gang violence and below that article on recent vote in Swedish parliament on getting public sector to inform on undocumented migrants.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67342368
    https://euobserver.com/221451/sweden-votes-to-turn-public-workers-into-informants-of-undocumented-migrants/
    Post edited by Ozymandius2011 on


  • #16684
    Paddy_Mag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Spain is going to suffer for this now. And when they cannot get jobs, they will land here and mysteriously have lost their new passport

    https://twitter.com/i/status/2067170838814576744

    Poster Warned.

    Let's cut it out with posting links with very little text from the poster. Add to dicussion itself with your own words.

    Post edited by Rawr on


  • #16685
    batman_oh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,600 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124559472#Comment_124559472

    We had people on here a few years ago saying this was all far right nazi propoganda and everybody in Sweden was happy with how many asylum seekers they took.



  • #16686
    Mike Murdock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    The biggest disseminators of disinformation, misinformation, obsfucation and downright lies aren't social media posters. It's politicians.



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  • #16687
    Resplendent Moose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭Resplendent Moose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124558339#Comment_124558339

    No.

    I've been doing you the courtesy of attacking the posts, not the poster. Stop personalising this.

    I've given you your posting history. I've called you out for citing known far-right misinformation sources to backup your claims. I've challenged your use of far-right soundbites such as "refugees are economic migrants". What more do you want? What more do you need? You walk like a duck and you quack like a duck. We could be here until the end of the year going through your posts one by one and guess what? You'll still be far-right.

    At this stage what's your tactic? To try waste my time by tying me up in bad-faith arguments? "Get up the yard", as they say.

    A personal invitation to dance, as Nero plays for the last time
    Tonight you will mix with the prophets without honour...



  • #16688
    enricoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭enricoh


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124559472#Comment_124559472

    Please, please stop mentioning Sweden. The refugee welcome brigade have no defence against it - it's like Kryptonite to them , bless em.

    Now let's learn nothing from Swedens experience n plough on. Surely throwing more billions at the refugee industry will help us avoid mirroring Sweden?

    It's surely worth a shot reckons banty mcenaney n co! We'll reappraise the situation when the handy money from corporation tax whittles down.



  • #16689
    Ozymandius2011
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,736 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124559690#Comment_124559690

    The Left used to talk about Sweden as a model for Ireland. Hardly ever now.



  • #16690
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124554425#Comment_124554425

    You can say that right wingers are always talking about immigration but the other side of this is the parties of the left don't talk about it at all except when they are banging on about racism being such a big problem in Ireland which it isn't.



  • #16691
    El Gato De Negocios
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,893 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124559700#Comment_124559700

    I wonder why that is?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/30/how-gang-violence-took-hold-of-sweden-in-five-charts

    The Swedish police have identified a number of “utsatta”, or vulnerable areas, across the country. These are home to just 5% of the country’s population, but are connected with the most serious violence.

    While these areas do have high proportions of residents born outside Europe and second- and third-generation immigrants, they have been shaped by socioeconomic circumstances over a long period of time, a factor which experts say is of far greater significance to the current situation.

    3 years ago the Government recognised the issues with immigration

    https://www.government.se/government-policy/the-governments-priorities/migration-and-integration/about-the-governments-prioritisation-migration-and-integration/

    This means Sweden is redirecting its focus from being a country for asylum immigration to now being a country for labour immigration

    Extensive immigration in recent years has caused major strains on our society.

    Citizenship should be earned – not handed out

    The era of casual requirements for Swedish citizenship is over.

    So one of the most liberal, accepting and forward thinking countries in the world recognised 3 years ago the damage being done, yet you have certain bad actors in here gaslighting us for calling out the same path we are on as a nation and calling us nazis? It would be fuckin hilarious if it werent so bloody serious.



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  • #16692
    Rawr
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rawr


    A reminder that any post regarding cases before the courts will be deleted.

    -Mod



  • #16693
    ericzeking
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    I find a simple rule of thumb in life is that anyone who uses the terms 'misinformation' and 'disinformation' in an accusatory manner can be safely disregarded.



  • #16694
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,056 ✭✭✭plodder


    Are Micheal Martin and Simon Harris far-right for saying 80% of asylum seekers are economic migrants? The term has completely lost all meaning if that's the case.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/30/simon-harris-accused-of-going-down-the-nigel-farage-route-over-immigration-comments/

    Asked about Mr Harris’s comments, Mr Martin said “the levels of what we might call asylum-seeking has increased significantly since Covid, or before Covid”. “About 80 per cent are refused on their first stage of the appeal. And that’s significant because it really points to what you’re looking at here is economic migration, primarily, and basically people shouldn’t come to Ireland if they know deep down that they’re not going [to be granted asylum].”

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • #16695
    Marcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Marcos


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124559430#Comment_124559430

    That link isn't working.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • #16696
    Marcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Marcos


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124558257#Comment_124558257

    So it's OK to handwave away recent examples leftist political violence here because they didn't engage in something that happened in the US? That's an incredibly low bar, and would it apply equally to the other side? I think we know the answer to that.

    The fact that your first instinct is to look across to the US for guidance shows an example of what former Australian Prime Minister called a "cultural cringe" taking your lead from the US and automatically seeking guidance from actions there rather than anything similar that happened here.

    This is how the cultural wars take place here, for the leftists it is spread via the social sciences in the US and throughout the English speaking world. People affected by this don't need to have done social sciences or similar as it bleeds out in the media and online discussions.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • #16697
    tallaghtfornia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124557543#Comment_124557543

    My fear with this pact is that our Government will not implement the removal of illegal immigrants & failed asylum seekers to off shore processing centres and the only parts they will implement will be taking more people or accepting the fines and maybe documenting arrivals.

    It will be business as usual for the Immigration industry. To many influential people and well connected people involved and making money from this.



  • #16698
    rgossip30
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124558607#Comment_124558607

    Most migrants come here to work on work permits or EU citizens get 3 months to find a job . Asylum seekers and Ukranians are another matter they require state assistance for everything even finding work .



  • #16699
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    I guarantee that 3 months for EU citizens to find a job is never enforced.



  • #16700
    rgossip30
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124560395#Comment_124560395

    They say 6 months if you can prove you are actively looking for work but interesting no politican has asked about enforcement after that period if you have not found work . .



  • #16701
    tallaghtfornia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124560395#Comment_124560395

    100% we pick and chose the EU laws we want to implement. Again to go back to what I have said our boarders are wide open the government have no idea who is in the country a quick flash of your EU passport and your in no questions asked.



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  • #16702
    creedp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124560776#Comment_124560776

    I didn’t think there was a limit for deportation of EU citizens. Free movement lis free movement. Is that limit about becoming a burden on the State’s social welfare system, ie EU citizens can stay as long as they don’t become a burden on the Stares finances.



  • #16703
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving-country/moving-to-ireland/rights-of-residence-in-ireland/residence-rights-eu-national/

    You can enter Ireland and stay here for up to 3
    months (6 months if you are looking for a job) without restriction. If
    you plan to stay more than 3 months, you must either:

    • Be working (either employed or self-employed)
    • Have enough money and sickness insurance to support yourself and your family
    • Be enrolled as a student or vocational trainee or
    • Be a family member of an EEA or Swiss citizen in one of the previous categories.


  • #16704
    creedp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124560848#Comment_124560848

    Yea so you can stay as long as you want as long as you have the bobs or have a social insurance pension including a contributory oap pension from another MS



  • #16705
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,527 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    A Lithuanian man, Renaldas Talocka (54), jailed for €170k worth of drugs found in growhouse just four days after arriving in here. This lad is a convicted killer. He had spent 26 to 28 years of his life in custody in Lithuania for murder, where he mostly has multiple previous convictions for minor bodily injury, criminal damage and theft for example. He's been jailed for three years and three months after which he is to handed over to the PSNI for alleged similar offending and possession of a firearm.

    This guy should have never been allowed into the country. ffs

    "….they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door."



  • #16706
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124561028#Comment_124561028

    but we’re told everyone coming into the country is vetted, what happened here??



  • #16707
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124560916#Comment_124560916

    The Puskas family seemed to have lasted fine without any of that for years, including a getting a 5 bedroom house



  • #16708
    Paddy_Mag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Simon really doesn't want the official numbers released because we all know they are going to tell a sorry story about how Irish people are being treated on their own country and he is the one peddling misinformation.

    The Secrecy from Harris would make the Russians proud.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/2067640741564743698


  • #16709
    Paddy_Mag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124559677#Comment_124559677

    So, because i do not fall in line with you opinion that makes me far right. Grand, thanks for clarifying

    When you are attacking me, you are not attacking the posts.



  • #16710
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,202 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124558138#Comment_124558138

    How has that not resulted in a thread ban? This is not good faith engagement.



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  • #16711
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,527 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    A Nigerian man who cant be name fore legal reasons (asylum seeker) has been jailed for raping female friend at IPAS centre, June 15, 2025. He's been sentenced the man to 5 years and 6 months, and is now subject to a deportation order upon his release…….Just deported him now.

    https://www.westmeathexaminer.ie/2026/06/18/man-jailed-for-raping-female-friend-at-ipas-centre/

    "….they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door."



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