Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Of course Fox paint this as a success... But looking at Trump's face, he looks like he's had a stroke

I must admit Rubio, dildos and lube are not things I would normally think of simultaneously.

Agree. Face looks droppy. He did not look well in Paris this week. Slumped in his seat, bearly able to keep his eyes open, looked wobbly on his feet at times. I know jet lag and travelling long haul at 80 years old is tough, but I think this is more than jet lag.

So the US got involved in a completely unnecessary and illegal war,
spent billions, and further damaged massively strained relations with
their allies while straining the global economy only to completely
failed in their war aims, and finish with a massive climbdown and a much
worse agreement than the Obama JCPOA.

Agreed, and it's an absolutely lunatic scenario.

The thing is there were people that were giving clear warnings at just how bad all of this war, even back when Trump tore up the JCPOA.

Further, Iran has emerged refreshed with Khamenei 2.0, will be enriched
by US billions, and have much stronger strategic hand in the region,
particularly with regard to Hormuz Strait and having got the US agree to
having its ally Israel desist in its aggression.

Iran, as a nation, has suffered a lot of damage. But the regime has been strengthened beyond their wildest dreams. Not only that, but according to some they still have about 75% of their weapons stockpiles still available to them and they also still have their…"trump" card in their ability to shut off the oil tap.

In blunt terms, as they apply to the US, the whole venture has been a complete disaster of incredible proportion because of Trump's reckless stupidity. Not only that, Israel is involved in forever wars in the middle east because of Netanyahu and his band of headbangers who need constant conflict to remain relevant.

These people are an catastrophic danger to the world. They simply do not care if it burns in their pursuits. They are the worst type to have in charge of nations, especially nations with such far reaching influence and power.

If there's one thing the the rest of us have learned out of all of this, though, is that we need to marginalise the leverage Israel has on US and UK political circles and we need to stop kidding ourselves that America has everyone's best interest at its heart.

He's more interested in the surrounding royal bling and dreaming of more tat for the WH. Macron knows what makes the oaf drool.

Just spotted this don't think its old news? Vid posted yesterday.

You'd think Americans would have learned something from their $2 trillion adventure in Afghanistan.

Cuba is too small and weak to pass off as a win. Venezuela has oil and they were able to extricate Maduro. No real way of doing that with Cuba and there are no resources there to justify it. It might also upset a lot of Cuban-Americans in Florida and thereabouts.

Good point. That was decades ago whereas the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan happened during covid.

At least there was the appearance of some reasoning behind those. There was never any reason to go to war with Iran, and even less so given the complete lack of any planning or strategy behind it. He never asked Congress, he never let the people know in advance. He just launched the war, and from the moment he gave his briefing, it was clear he didn't have any primary reason.

His first briefing talked about the Iranian people rising up, through thye had to wait a few days as the bombs were falling. Since then, it has had multiple reasons for the war, each lasting as long as the previous one, before they seemingly settled on the nuclear bombs excuse. Which Trump has now discarded, it's only 8th of the 14 pts!

Nobody was asking for this war. He ran on being a POTUS who wouldn't drag them into war. And then when he does, he fails completely and humiliatingly. Whatever about what Americans are prepared to accept, they have always hated a loser. A Trump is very much a loser now. There is nobody to blame here. He will try of course, Bibi, Hegseth, Rubio etc. But Trump made this decision and lived off the 'glory' of being a war POTUS.