Israel/Palestine Thread

I mean its current incarnation of being a far right, racist, Apartheid state which is constantly in a state of war.

Black people who lived in South Africa during the 1980s and who have visited Palestine and the West Bank say the levels of racism and extremism towards the Palestinians they witnessed were much worse than anything they experienced in their own lives.

As for Egypt and Jordan, whilst there is nominally 'peace' between them and Israel, most Egyptians and Jordanians (over 90%) hate the Israelis and view them very negatively. It would be a bit like saying Russia has a perfectly normal and peaceful relationship with Poland and the three Baltic states.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/6/15/israeli-forces-kill-three-year-old-palestinian-boy-on-family-farm-in-gaza

Jaber Abu al-Ajeen, Rayan’s grandfather, says he was at home next to the family’s farm when he heard gunfire, and discovered that his son Bahaa and another relative he was walking with had been targeted. He then found out that Rayan had been killed.

“My grandson, Rayan, was killed by a gunshot to the head; the bullet entered his head and exited through his eye,” Jaber told Al Jazeera. “His mother is devastated by what happened.”

Al-Ajeen explained that his son had been taken into an area controlled by the Israeli army, and then left bleeding for seven hours until he was transferred to hospital for treatment.

I'm sure the "most moral army in the world" accidently shot the boy in the head, I'll await clarification from the usual suspects though.

Jewish Israelis have consistently supported a war with Iran - approx 78%.

The UN has many forms and many organisations, for most of them, their opinion is interesting, but it is advisory, non-binding, pretty similar to the opinions you and I might have, and pretty subject to whatever biases the person and the organisation has. The decision-making organ of the UN is the UNSC. If you are claiming that the UN has found that Israel has committed genocide, you must be referencing a UNSC Resolution, or your claim isn't real.

The UNSC is primarily a political body, not a court and nearly always refers investigations to the ICC or the ICJ. It is the one of the latter two who would make a legal determination as to whether a country had committed genocide or not.

The ICC and ICJ are not the UN. There was a claim that the UN had already found that Israel was committing genocide, which clearly isn't true.

That isn't the UN.

I think he wants statements from every single department and UN agency before they’ll accept. It really is pathetic.

If the Department of Foreign Affairs in Ireland states something in relation to a country you can be sure that this is done with the approval of the government and if it wasn’t it’d be retracted or the government would issue a statement opposing this finding.

The UN has done nothing to refute the finding of genocide being committed by the OHCHR (of the UN).

Some care about the truth, some care about peddling opinions as if they’re fact.

The UNSC is not a court and does not investigate or issue findings that genocide - it is primarily a political forum where diplomats and politicians congregate.

Only a court (such as the ICC or ICJ) can come to a definitive legal judgement that a country has been committing genocide. But there is huge cooperation and overlap between the ICC and the UN.