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Will AI take your job?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,757 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    It will probably be as successful as Mr Chainsaw’s meme coin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,159 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Peter Thiel moved their recently and this feels very much so like his undue influence...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,964 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Bingo.

    And when you have genuine sociopaths like Thiel in a position where they are in control of where all this AI malarkey goes, you can bet your life that it won't be good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,757 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Luck them, they will get to have good anti-christ conferences.
    https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/16/europe/peter-thiel-antichrist-lectures-rome-intl



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭babyducklings1


    So what happens these people then the ones whose skills are no longer needed , like where will they go for jobs. Or will AI fix so many problems that economically things will become Utopian. I know no one had the answers but everything is changing so fast.
    On a slightly different but still related topic my local Dunnes used to have the check out customer services staff in clothes department , now its gone. It’s all self service check out , it’s so horrible. So automated I try to avoid shopping in it now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I think the world is waiting to find out the answers to those questions in fairness. 2027 and 2028 will likely tell us a lot- right now many companies are still getting to grips with the potential of AI but it will certainly mean significant layoffs - I know some Irish companies are focusing on 25% of their workforce gone over the coming 2 years. I’ve absolutely no idea where these people will get alternative employment at anywhere near the salary levels they’re currently on.

    I would HATE to have a mortgage right now, especially a relatively new one- I generally try and steer clear of doomsayer predictions but I can certainly see unemployment rates rise considerably over the coming 2 years- with very decent earning salaried people out of work - great if you’re close to retirement and get a nice package- but say for people with their 40s early 50s it’s going to be quite a shock to the system



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭CatLick


    No doubt firms will leverage AI to reduce headcount. However we will also see new start firms built specifically around high AI input and low headcount. These will start displacing the SME sector. The mortgage question is tricky as the government will not want mass repossession but banks won't manage mass defaults. Is there anything to be said for another bail-out?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭GHendrix


    This recession could be very different to other recessions throughout history though. Usually in a recession, people and companies stop spending and start cost cutting. (Layoffs) Eventually actions are taken, things start to slowly improve and companies hire again and people spend again.

    This is very different. We’re talking about potentially a huge number of jobs all becoming permanently redundant in a tiny space of time. Nobody is returning to those jobs. They’re just gone.

    The short term worry is how do we deal with that crisis? The mid - longer term worry is how do we deal with it when AI gets more and more sophisticated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Ireland will be in a similar position to other countries in that there’s going to be disruption to jobs everywhere- not just Ireland. So this mortgage debt issue won’t be unique to Ireland.
    Im not even sure a “bail out” will be possible this time - for me, the worlds wealth is starting to be sucked by my a few companies - AI companies - they’re the ones displacing traditional office jons- so logically they’re the ones that need to pay the costs of that job displacement - but that’s just not going to happen.

    So we’re heading towards governments having little money because it’s citizens currently funding the national purse are out of work and unskilled in this new area that will employ fewer people anyway- so unlike the last recession, there is no longterm hope of people getting back on their feet- the only solution I can see is for the Trillion dollar companies that will emerge from this, to start paying governments so that they can pay their unemployed citizens. Like that’s gonna happen.

    Maybe the ruthlessness of ICE and MAGA are now starting to make sense- it’s every country for itself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,926 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    We'll have a better idea by late 2027.

    Lots of convergent factors pointing towards then.

    I think every white collar worker in the world will (or should) be using AI to perform tasks by then.

    Imagine every scientist, researcher, engineer using AI on a daily basis.

    Recursive self improvement is likely coming in late 2028.

    I think humanoid robots are 4 or 5 years away from being really useful at scale.

    Self driving vehicles are just scaling up now.

    God knows what the 2030s will be like.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,964 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    God knows what the 2030s will be like.

    Soylent fucking Green.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,757 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I think maybe 2028, when this current bubble bursts it will take a while for the dust to settle as a lot of money will have been shoveled into the furnace. Microsoft will probably emerge as the player due to it's stake in Open AI. There will be a lot of companies hit hard such as Oracle, VCs and Private equity so I can't see an appetite for burning more money unless there is a massive cut in costs.

    What makes you think robots at scale are 4 to 5 years away?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭CatLick


    https://fortune.com/2026/06/16/openai-financials-leaked-losses-revenue-profit/

    Maybe AI might not be worth it after all. Hard to see this as investment grade. Though plenty of AI fan bois out there who wouldn't mind a Kool aid slurp



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    Can we give them the kool-aid? The type Charles Manson gave his followers should be a good shout.

    That we people will stop pushing the sh*te everywhere and the companies creating it can die.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,926 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I'm not sure about bubble bursting. Definitely lots of money to be made. So some companies will make fortunes, others will fail.

    I'm just guessing about robots really. Lots being tested in actual factories now like car manufacturers.

    Apparently lack of data is a problem with robots so they're trained via simulation.

    I mean more scaling up rather than "at scale", similar to how there was lots of hype about self driving in 2016 to 2018 but they're only scaling up now.

    But there will definitely be humanoid robots with a type of "jagged" super intelligence soon, which will be interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,757 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Open AI has committed to spending around five times their annual revenues, what kind of advancement will it take to make up this shortfall?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    thank god we resolved issues such as climate change, thankfully theres no possible way such damage could cause extremely serious critical supply chain disruptions including food supply chains, and now we ai to the rescue!

    and what supplies power to all these data centers, our power grids of course, thankfully we dont have to worry about those, isnt that right!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,757 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Ed Zitron will be on top form now, can't wait. This whole thing along with the Space-X mummers farce has been a massive failing of the financial media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,971 ✭✭✭amacca


    All sensible means of valuation etc have been cast aside ...it was ever thus....its all on the premise that this is a sea change and will bring unbelievable wealth/power to the winners...but it needs to be on a certain timescale and things like this rarely operate to the desired calendar....there's a good smattering of a bubble/fever too..if anyone wants to read something related and if they haven't already they should read extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds...

    I think, the tech absolutely evolves, is a game changer but I'm unclear on the timeline and I'm expecting a lot of AI companies to go bust and investors large and small to make very significant losses



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭plodder


    There's definitely going to be investment in nuclear SMRs. Whether they deliver remains to be seen, but I think it's actually quite likely considering the "need" that AI will provide.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭SpoonyMcSpoon


    The whole AI noise is pure bluster; the demand for AI is just not there like the large companies would have you believe and certainly the cost versus revenue generation doesn’t add up whatsoever (let alone looking at the energy demands needed to sustain this AI boom while we are in a climate emergency).


    To put it another way; AI wouldn’t need so much hype if the products themselves could do the talking. Don’t get me wrong, it has some brilliant use cases but it doesn’t seem like it is going to make a lot of money for companies using it themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,757 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Also, the title of the thread should be "will LLMs take your job".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    true, but the reality is, ireland isnt gonna do this quickly enough, nuclear is decades away for ireland, unfortunately its looking like we re gonna start running out of energy soon enough, possibly as soon as the 30's/40's, so get ready for frequent blackouts!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭plodder


    I've been sceptical of nuclear for a while and fairly dismissive that it would ever happen here. But, I think this push from AI is real, and probably will lead to viable solutions. If that were to happen, I think it could happen here quickly. The main stumbling block would be the lack of regulatory capability. Back in the 70's we had the beginnings of a Nuclear Energy Board but that was allowed to wither away when it became clear we weren't going to build nukes. You won't find me advocating for unlimited data centres here in the meantime though. I think there should absolutely be a moratorium on any more until the power situation is resolved.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    unfortunately ireland is a strongly anti-nuclear country, so getting a reactor through the planning process, even if theres significant changes to legislation, will be virtually impossible for probably decades, but at least there will continue to be rapid development globally in the technology, so when ireland eventually comes on board, far superior nuclear tech will be available to us, but again unfortunately, in regards maintaining a functioning grid, its looking like, we ll probably be experiencing regular blackouts by that stage.

    yes we need data centers, for a multitude of reasons, not just for ai tech, but for critical social and economic functioning, but our grid cant cope with the rate of expansion of them, leading me to believe, this will all reveal itself in frequent blackouts in the near future, possibly as soon as the 30's/40's, noting, we re already starting to experience regular brown out events, so this is gonna get very tricky soon enough



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I always found it weird that we didn't jump on a renewable/nuclear bandwagon to supply data centres.

    These places suck up loads of energy. If we had a semi state that was generating energy for use there, then the state would be the one making the money. We could literally be selling the wind to massive tech companies. It could be the equivalent to the oil boom that other countries had.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,942 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Embarrassingly we haven't built an offshore windfarm since 2004. The government are trying to rectify this now by updating planning rules/laws but FFG move at a glacial pace unless something is "trending".

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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