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Football Championship 2026 (Mod Note in OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Parnell Park is nit the footballers home venue. They have not played a football league or championship match there I tjink only when they were in D2 a few years ago before that it was 2010.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Anyone know how much tix are for Croker on Sunday? Might try fit it in before Metallica



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭overshoot


    Club has posted 25e adult, 20student/oap, 5e kids. General sale from 12 tomorrow

    I shall be doing the same thing. Quite happy the timing worked out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The change in format has not made much difference to who qualified into the the last 12. 10 are the same, newcomers this year Mayo and Westmeath. Losing out from last year Cavan and Down.

    Tyrone is the only one who made the last 8 directly both years. Last years Semi Finals if people remember were Donegal v Meath and Tyrone v Kerry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭legendary.xix


    It wasn't promising major change to who got through. The previous format had 2 rounds before round 3 for winning the group or avoiding elimination. The new format has only one round before you are into 2A to go direct to quarters or 2B to avoid elimination. This format is more direct.

    If provincial winners had home games in Rounds 1, 2 and 3 as is being suggested for next year:

    Round 2A

    Armagh* v Louth and Westmeath* v Galway

    Round 2B

    Kerry* v Kildare and Roscommon* v Monaghan

    For example purposes if the match results were still the same:

    Round 3

    Westmeath* v Monaghan

    (Kerry* v Armagh* could not happen as Armagh would also be in receipt of home advantage.)

    Dublin v Donegal

    Kerry* v Mayo

    Armagh* v Meath

    *Provincial winners.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,752 ✭✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Yes,thats makes some sense.

    They will have to do something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    I don't think there's a need to do anything in relation to the provincial winners - doing so introduces too many restrictions for the 2nd round draw imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    No necessarily they might just have Kerry and Armagh draw for it.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The previous format lasted 3 years, until the grumblings mostly about dead rubbers and lack of jeopardy saw it abandoned. Harking back to that format as some sort of model for progress now seems a bit odd. Especially from people who moaned about it when it was in place. I expect the 92% who approved the new format at Congress, knew what they were voting for.

    The talk about home draws for Provincial winners is just talk. As is the talk about replays of Provincial Finals instead of penalties, and moving AI Finals to August. It will need another Special Congress to mandate those things.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0222/1498260-hurling-handpass-reform-rejected-at-gaa-congress/

    "The All-Ireland SFC group phase, in place since 2023, had been widely criticised for a lack of perceived jeopardy, with three out of four teams allowed progress to the knockout phase."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    This round of games should be at neutral venues

    Also some teams have lost twice already and are still in the competition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Joesa


    Teams haven't lost twice in this competition. They may have lost in their province, but that's a separate competition, with a different trophy for the winner.

    How you qualify for the all Ireland has evolved to create more games.

    It use to be only provincial champions qualified for the all Ireland.

    Then every county on exiting your provisional championship qualified for the all Ireland. This was the "back door" system. You entered the all Ireland series either by winning your province or by being eliminated. But you have to treat the all Ireland as a separate competition.

    Now only the top 16 county's in the country are allowed compete in the all Ireland.

    So teams haven't lost twice. They lost once in their province and once in the all Ireland.

    I would think it more unfair now if a team who haven't lost in the all Ireland series lose to a Kerry, Armagh,or Donegal in the all Ireland final.

    So say Louth are unbeaten in the all Ireland, and play Kerry in the final.

    Kerry win, both teams will have lost just once in the all Ireland series.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭Krazy gang


    Interesting that monaghan will have had all 3 of their games at home when they play westmeath on Sunday and meath will have had 3 away games. Luck of the draw i guess!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Three tosses of a coin, three heads. This is the only stage of the competition where it is the luck of the draw, and it is a maximum of 3 games for any county. No need to invent ways to make it complicated, which some people want by trying to favour Provincial champions.

    The Provinces themselves in their competitions don't worry too much about home/away. Westmeath played all their four Leinster games outside of Westmeath.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭legendary.xix


    The Round 2 draw already doesn't allow repeated provincial final pairings. Giving provincial winners home advantage is easy:

    2A

    Armagh home to Louth

    Westmeath home to Galway

    2B

    Roscommon home to Monaghan

    Kerry home to Kildare

    R3

    Westmeath home to Monaghan

    Kerry cannon play Kildare

    Armagh home to Meath

    Kerry home to Mayo

    Provincial finals:

    Home advantage in R2 and possibly R3 is the carrot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    What happens if two provincial winners are drawn against each other in round 2 / 3?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭legendary.xix


    The same as they would do if Armagh and Monaghan had drawn each other in Round 3, after already playing each other in the Ulster final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    That was my point - your proposal introduces additional restrictions on who can play whom when there's no real need to IMO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The draw was already "fixed" to put Monaghan in a bowl on its own. And Donegal and Westmeath in another bowl together to find a valid opponent for Monaghan. There was no possibility of Monaghan v Armagh.

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22621224/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I expect that the Westmeath top brass are secretly relieved that they are not drawn at home. They would not have been able to resist the local "Mullingar or nowhere" clamour. They got to play in a good venue in Galway, and now the same in Clones. Mullingar would be packed like it was for Cavan, and thousands would miss out because of the capacity there. Having a Provincial champions must get a home draw edict, would not be ideal in that scenario.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Westmeath is on the motorway and railway to Galway. The motorway to Clones was never built and the railway closed in 1957. But Clones is a welcoming town for GAA people and there is plenty of space if people want to come, even if they'll be parked in Fermanagh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭Westernview


    It will be interesting to see where Westmeath go after this year. A population bigger than Roscommon and seemingly football mad with some very nice footballers. Louth have shown the way and are proving that they were no flash in the pan last year. It would be great to see these teams continue to progress and rattle the big guns every chance they get.

    The new rules have created a very exciting championship even if the usual suspects end up in the last 4.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,475 ✭✭✭✭event


    Meath have won 1 game.

    Monaghan have won 3 games.

    They are both in the same stage. I would say meath have been pretty lucky so far



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There's a bit of hurling in Westmeath as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭snowgal




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,930 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    Meath have won one game in the All Ireland series, Monaghan have won one game also. That's why they're at the same stage and you surely know that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Where are you getting this from?

    Monaghan have won 1 game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭legendary.xix


    I think someone is adding up provincial wins and All Ireland series wins. Some people see Donegal losing 2 games and aren't impressed that they are still in the championship.

    I know Derry was controversial that they lost 3 championship games and still got through to the quarters a few years back. I think lose a third and your out is fair enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,912 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Loutn have strong foundations though,I don't know if WH have the same . Big work on coaching over several years at all levels, and a strong squad not just a strong team. Hard to believe they were in division 4 focenor so years ago .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,061 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    even if they'll be parked in Fermanagh

    Considering Fermanagh is only a few hundred yards from the town boundary on 3 approach roads, that’s not all that difficult.



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