The split season

There are few if any of what I would term "tensions" now. The split season has resolved the situation.

You totally missed the point of his post. Everyone knows the club is where it starts and is so important but inerciunty is what draws the publicity and media coverage. Same as the world cup on now. Anyone into sport can remember their first world Cup especially when Ireland were involved. Its what draws kids to sport and opens their imagination.

You don't have to preach to me about club games because I go to far more club games than inter-county.

Ok I take your point about the players being more important than the casual fan. But saying having big game's on TV in August/September won't attract young people im not sure about that.

Look at how the Premier league is on TV from August to May, saturation coverage, live games on sky, highlights on motd. New jerseys every season. You can't say that's not a big factor in attracting kids to soccer.

I have a nephew, plays soccer, hurling, gaelic. Mad into them. But im fairly sure he knows more man utd and Liverpool player's than he does Limerick hurlers or Dublin footballers. Premier league being on TV 9 months of the year is the main reason for that id imagine .

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The football championship is so good with the new rules and shocks galore id worry for hurling. Only a few games left and will be overshadowed by the football and the world cup. We need more hurling games in June like football has

Still club games going deep into Autumn/Winter

Yes. Thousands of matches for the real GAA community to participate in and enjoy over the coming months. It's fantastic.

For that to happen, you’d have to change the format of the hurling championship. Which won’t happen given the Munster championship is holding the sport together.

Also, football is a far better watch these last two seasons, and has more competitive teams. And with, as you rightly say, shocks galore. It also looks like a freer sport to play, hurling has a “play by excel sheet” feeing to it with its handpasses up the field potshots every 30 seconds. Footballers look like they’ve been unleashed, hurlers look tethered to gameplan, although it would be wrong to deny there’s still outrageous skill and individual brilliance on show. Still though, compared to football, it looks like sport by numbers.

Hurling games in June won’t change that, when you have the same teams playing each other 3/4/5/6 times a year, and most of them games predictable.

And then there’s the lower tiers being run off as early as possible and given no attention whatsoever while the Tailteann Cup continues to nearly the end of the season. You can’t grow the game if you treat those trying their best to develop the sport in areas around the country if they’re treated like an inconvenience.

And let’s not forget the constant steps, throws, pulling, dragging, barging and charging, and constant undermining of referees on the field.

Hurling has massive problems, perhaps sport killing problems.

Problems which are not down to the split season either. That’s the least of the the sports problems.

I’d also argue they’ve failed to use the split season to develop hurling in the earlier part of the season in counties where football rules supreme.

I'm 37 and for as long as I've had a grasp of it GAA championships in the US have been booming every summer bar the 2 covid effected years.

I'm almost half as old again, and can confirm that the North American championships have always attracted players each year. My own playing days in the adult grades started in the early 1990s , and there wasn't a year went by that some players didn't head over there. Even did it myself one year.

It's tinfoil hat stuff all right to suggest that a New York President of the GAA used the role to massage things such that club competitions there would benefit while ones here would suffer.

Most of the moaning is coming from the armchair fan

That's exactly what I've said all along, and the longer such complaining continues, the more obvious that becomes.

A lot here backing status quo. I'm not an armchair fan and have played and been involved in the club game. I just believe the current format is too congested and should be extended to let it breathe. The league is something that should be done away with to free up calendar space.

The league is not the problem.. the problem is next Sunday is the longest day of the year.. and at 5pm on the longest day there will be just 4 intercounty hurling teams looking forward to training next Tuesday night and there will be just 3 intercounty hurling games left to play... that's sad.. intercounty hurling like its football counterpart should be at its height these weekends and not coming to its conclusion...

when KK were a dominant force in hurling.. the club games continued to be played off during the intercounty campaign and it didn't stop them winning all irelands...

The reason club players became disillusioned was due to the total ineptness of county boards to get fixtures played..

Always only a matter of time before somebody trots out that line about Kilkenny, but consider the circumstances….

• When Kilkenny last won the All-Ireland SHC in 2015, they played only four matches - June 21, July 5, August 9, September 6.
• Basically, the were free to play club matches from when National League finished at end of March that year up to late May or early June. Later had four free weekends between their Leinster Final and All-Ireland semi-final to get in a club match or two, followed by three free weekends between the All-Ireland semi-final and final.
• Also consider their club competitions structure. Football out of the way by the end of April. A hurling league rather than championship played during the summer months. Granted, league was linked to championship because your finishing position in league determined whether or not you got a bye in the first round of championship, but key point is that you couldn't go out of the club championship during those months.
• So, wasn't unusual for county players to sit out a couple of those club matches, depending on circumstances (and of course, also depending on what a certain Mr. Cody said).

That Kilkenny situation is not the great example of club and county existing alongside each other that you and anybody else who trots it out must believe it to be.

No you need to do your homework. There will be 8 sam maguire teams and 2 tailteann Cup, so 10 in all.