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Would you visit USA in the current climate?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,974 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I didn't like Daddy Bush's politics, but he was a decent man who wanted the best for his country. You couldn't say that about his son or any Republican since then, cûnts to a man (and woman).

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,710 ✭✭✭Economics101


    This CNN piece shows a very significant fall in tourist travel to the US in 2025. I imagine that the numbers for 2026 will be even worse.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/25/travel/analysis-tourism-fewer-international-visitors-2025-vis



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    There has been quite the online trend the last couple of days of visitors road-tripping the US and uploading their discoveries. Freddy in particular has reached over a half-million followers in a few days, and has received invitations to big name concerts, soccer matches, machine gun ranges and god knows what else.

    https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/world-cup/world-cup-buc-ees-ranch-dip/4415972/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_PHBrand

    https://babylonbee.com/news/us-votes-to-legally-adopt-freddy-the-german

    He has had shoutouts on the radio and Americans are waiting for him.

    https://x.com/FreddyLA7/status/2065944852949278939



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,129 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    The friendliness isn't fake, they genuinely are like that for the most part in my experience. Also its really not the done thing here to talk or brag about money/salary and social status during social gatherings so don't know where youre meeting these people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Famous Seamus


    It's always felt fake to me, I got tired of listening to them babble on incessantly about themselves, completely self absorbed, zero interest in anything I had to say, thankfully we no longer have any reason to go back there. There are far more interesting places I'd rather be spending my money.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭yagan


    It's more like they just lack depth and nuance, which to us can appear vacuous and insincere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,703 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    A world cup series won’t attract millions of punters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,997 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Delighted to see this: was hoping it would be a lot more though


    “Four million fewer overseas tourists and 25pc drop in Irish visitors piles pressure on US tourism chiefs”

    And Nick Adam’s can go an fck off with his bullsh1t lies:

    “The “most egregious misperception” he added, “is that if you travel to the United States, you are likely to be detained, have your phone confiscated, have your social media pored all over, and then you’ll be put on a plane back”.
    “That is just totally not true,” he said.

    “There is no social media policy in place,” Mr Adams said. “That is not true. I’ve spoken with the Department of Homeland Security. I’ve asked them for the figures.”

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/there-is-no-social-media-policy-in-place-us-tourism-tsar-launches-charm-offensive-in-ireland-amid-trump-slump-fears/a/156969297.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,442 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    "Mr Adams, who is special presidential envoy for tourism, exceptionalism and values"...

    There's a special presidential envoy for 'exceptionalism'? Barmy



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,997 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I’m actually quite surprised that America is on the charm offensive looking for tourist tax dollars- I mean they have wasted 100s of millions of dollars on the Iran conflict no less elsewhere - all of which were unnecessary and have added to their economic woes with higher prices.

    Even leaving aside the poxy politics for a minute, there’s not huge value to be had going to America for a holiday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Right. There’s nothing to fear, but an inherent part of that "exceptionalism" (gulp) is the incarceration rate which is higher than any other country on earth, or one percent of population. Same divverenz with their firearms rate. Luckily though, they have avoided the scourge of mass shootings the rest of the planet has endured, and they are a peaceful disneyfied lot, general-lee speaking.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 11,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    I think it's a case being seen to be doing something in the eyes of their voters and the businesses who donate.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 11,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Oh it's a lot more than 4 million…. It's 4 million according to their latest definition of a tourist…. And remember that they redefined interstate tourist as being anyone who crosses a stateline… They are now including workers who cross back and forth everyday - one woman interview said she is a tourist twice a day when she crosses over to do her morning and afternoon shifts at a restraunt!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,997 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Could well be- good point.

    At least this regime fears “something” - ie their paymasters



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Alfaguy


    Its a bit disturbing to read some posts in this thread that say they have no issue with current US politics and it would not influence their decision to visit there. That requires a certain and pretty nasty level of ethical and moral detachment or apathy that I am sure enabled Nazi Germany to evolve into the nightmare it eventually became.

    Just like Germans had to be forcibly walked through the concentration camps after WW2 ended to see for themselves what had gone on while they chose to look the other way ordinary americans have to be thought and shown that the world is watching what's going on there and does not approve. The only way people outside of the US can protest is to boycott all things USA or USA derived and definitely not visit there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    The only way people outside of the US can protest is to boycott all things USA or USA derived and definitely not visit there.

    And how are you getting on boycotting all things USA yourself?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,714 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Posted from an American phone on an American browser, using American internet services on a website thats uses an American hosting company.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    What WAS tourism into Germany like at that time out of curiosity? Not asking as a trick question at all. You just put it in my head that the big difference between what you are saying about the USA and what you are saying about Germany - is that I have a general feeling the latter was not a big tourist destination at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Alfaguy


    I have no clue but google AI says that tourism into nazi germany prior to the war was flourishing but my point was more about the (willful or otherwise) lack of awareness or apathy of the US population today about what is happening and the same for the German population before and during the war and that one method each individual has is to not visit and to boycott US goods and services. Of course that is impossible to do 100% but I have already cut many US goods and services and this boycott USA movement is gathering pace all the time.

    To see that that same dismissive detachment from reality is alive and well here too is a bit frightening to be honest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    The great thing about Google AI is if I wanted to talk to google AI I could :) I come to Boards to talk to real people. Though there are many bots :)

    I dunno - I think tourism under the rubric of an international social and information system such as the internet - is a very hard square peg to put into a very very different round hole. If they had the internet back in the times of early WWI and WWII I would have been recommending people go there and report back rather than suggest they boycott the destination.

    I am rather biased at the moment though as I am mid way through a USA trip right now and so far it has been one of the top 10 positive experiences of my life. I landed in for the world cup opening Ceremony day and I have been traveling across country ever since doing various things.

    I am generally Texas focused on this trip despite my landing and travel zone. But over all my experience on the ground has not been anything like social media or anything else has prepared me for. In fact half the time I felt like I was back home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Alfaguy


    Well of course it takes time for things to boomerang on a country that thinks it can do as it wishes without consequence as the Muscovite's are finding out this week. Everything is grand until it isn't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    A lovely closing sentence which pretty much sums up most of my political opinions :) Expecting any kind of stability in any opinion if clearly folly :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Alfaguy


    Well if the USA population thinks Iran will simply forget that the USA blew its leader to bits and that there won't be some major retaliation on US soil at some point in the future but before Trump leaves office I fear they are in for a nasty surprise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    If someone travel there to see Grand Canyon or some other nice place I don't see why would anyone bother themselves with other country politics. They do have president they elected so its rather naive to think that opinions or decision to not travel of someone who do not live there do actually matter for anyone but that "principled" person.

    Absolute majority of people from Ireland who do go visit and enjoy nature or sights or shopping without planning to attend anti government rally will hardly experience any issue from government servants during their trip.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭yagan


    But they'll still encounter the tipping culture and fake sincerity it engenders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    Havent hit that TOO much yet. At least not as bad as "pog" hit me with in clontarf :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Alfaguy


    Of course people can travel to the USA if they wish - its a free world and its their choice and money. I am just saying for me as an individual I would not on principal in much the same way I would not visit North Korea or Russia. I obviously do not approve of USA visits but there is not much I can do about it if people do but I would hope that people intending or thinking about travelling there would give some thought to the current politics and moral ethos of that country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,266 ✭✭✭Neowise


    I dont want to go to the US. I'd like to go to Russia and North Korea.

    But, your statemnt "I would hope that people intending or thinking about travelling there
    would give some thought to the current politics and moral ethos of that
    country. "

    i don't know wtf you are talking about, the current politics and moral ethos of that country. what does that even mean.

    Countries don't have those things.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭XopherIE


    I don't think the current climate of the USA would affect my opinion but personally the US was never a country I would love to go to. It wouldn't be on the top 50 places on my list of places to see before I die. However, my partner would love to go so I probably will go at some stage.

    From the people who I have spoke to who have been in recent times (less than a year ago) have all said apart from the cost of things like food and drink it was a really enjoyable trip and it was enjoyable.



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