Ireland vs Israel - To play or not to play, that is the question Read OP for Mod Warning

The scales are different but the protest method is the same.

You praise the fuel protesters because they disrupted normality, blocked things not directly related to their protest, and made people uncomfortable.

But whenever people propose disruption or pressure in this case, suddenly disruption is bad, symbolism is pointless and inconvenience is unfair.

When it's a cause you agree with, disruption is effective pressure.

When it's a cause you disagree with, it's virtue signalling or whatever guff you are saying.

Hypocritical logic and functional support.

And a neutral could absolutely say they support innocent people not being killed, starved and blown up. It goes without saying.

You apply collective blame, which is bad enough, but only to one side, which is not neutral.

You can ask me to repeat myself all you want, the outcomes are the same, regardless of intention (and like the man and sheep, the intention doesn't matter we can judge the action) - your posts amount to functional support.

Jaysus why do you think people against what is happening in Gaza etc are against random Israelis?

If I ever meet one, I'll treat him the same as anyone. So would most people here. If he supports the warcrimes, I'll treat him like the others who support them here, with contempt.

Azaz is half Israeli, I don't see people abusing him he gets same support as anyone (afaik).

Most people are against a country committing what experts tell us is a genocide and starvation campaign against innocent people whom they have trapped behind fences and not getting sanctioned/ diplomatically isolated for it. They slander anyone who disagrees, including our great country and our great people for standing up for the most basic moral position imaginable. You don't have to know an Israeli or a Palestinian or anything about them to hold the view that it's totally wrong. It is a neutral position to advocate for the safety of civilians (including Israelis), and the harshest punishment/ deterrent for anyone who goes against this.

How do you genuinely not understand this??

Most people are still doing it is not a moral argument. If nobody ever moved before everyone else agreed, no boycott or social movement in history would have happened.

Every movement starts somewhere.

If everyone waits for everyone else to move first, nothing ever changes.

"Albania played them", "Norway played them", "India signed a trade deal" is not an argument - its a list of examples of the status quo that people are trying to change.

if 20 associations supported a boycott tomorrow, would you suddenly support it? Be honest.

I’ve never seen any insurance that covers someone’s unilateral decision to do something that costs them money. Please elaborate on this “insurance”.

Everyone, including the Palestinian FA, is ok with the proposed course of action re: the game.

Yet we still have trolls on this thread complaining, supposedly on behalf of the Palestinians.

One of my pet hates is people complaining on behalf of others, when those others are satisfied with the course of action.

Being agtessive and controntational certainly isnt going to result in peace breaking out.

If you're Palestinian - support the position of your own FA. Those of us in Ireland will be supporting the FAI.

That is 100% accurate, I have seen it many times on these threads where any poster that isn't condemning Israel in every post is met with the accusation of being complicit in genocide.

Really?

Posts ar criticised when they spend pages deflecting, attacking boycotts, dismissing protests, opposing any pressure, changing the subject to other countries, flip flopping, whataboutery, finding excuses for inaction and calling it peace, calling victims rapists, calling peace advocacy supporting war, while being unable or unwilling to apply any scrutiny to Israel's conduct - which in case you don't know, expert after expert are telling you is a genocide of civilians.

The people carrying out the above call themselves "neutral". Any neutral should be able to acknowledge or condemn a country doing that. Even once. And probably not engage in the bullsh*t above. Do you not agree?

"you must condemn Israel in every post" - is arguing against a caricature not what people are actually saying. Another example of bad faith posting.