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Aston Villa Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2025/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,403 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Apparently McGinns goal last night was first Villa player World Cup goal since Houghton against Italy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭Covidhaveago




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,403 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    You are correct and they are wrong. Fair shout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭chases0102


    Away for PL opener for a change…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,403 ✭✭✭✭CSF




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 951 ✭✭✭orourkeda1


    Is the extra week going to make that much of a difference? You'd wonder

    https://www.orourkeda.blog



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,403 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Probably nothing meaningful, just a bit of extra leeway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,403 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Jarrod Bowen and Emerson Royal being today’s links would not fill you with confidence for the summer ahead



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭pavb2


    I think if Bowen had played to his potential West Ham might have scraped enough points to stay up but his recent form was awful. Danny Dyer saying he should have gone to the World Cup was comical. Villa as a club are the right profile for him but it would only work if Emery could get him back to his best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,403 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Club should genuinely be outright banning Emery from paying more than 10 million for a player that age.


    We can’t come into every transfer window whinging about how financially screwed on ability to sign players and then only ever make efforts to ensure that the total resale value of the squad will be even lower by the time the next window comes around.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭cgorzy


    I think in all the time Emery has been here the only older player he has spent any sort of large fee on is Abraham. Next is probably Barkley who was about 5M and Villa got decent value out of him.

    Biggest signings have been young, Onana, Diaby, Torres, Maatsen, Malen and even Guessand. Add in Rogers and the squad value has probably kept going up relative to purchase price despite the depressed spending.

    Wilson off to Leeds now so that is an older player we were heavily linked going elsewhere. Bowen talk isprobably based on nothing.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,331 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    If Villa sold Morgan Rodgers for more than 100m - not what I want but it could happen - Then I could see the logic in signing a player like Bowen if it was done in conjunction with someone young like M'Baye. You can never feel safe when replacing a big money departure like Rodgers but prem proven Bowen plus a bags of potential future star like M'Baye would have me as confident as possible after such a loss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,403 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    There is only so many situations like the current Martinez one that the club can afford.

    Like I’m not saying this in terms of a figurative situation, you literally can’t afford to have a squad full of good players all staying with you the whole way through their prime, and then having no money to replace them with and feeling trapped because you’re only getting offered pennies on the dollar for a highly paid player in decline.


    After Rogers, Onana is probably the only chance Villa will have to generate the funds to sign the squad that will be needed in 2/3 years time. There are no luxury funds at all for signing players that will be good for a couple of years and then need replacing with no money to do so.


    Chelsea and United have that luxury. Villa absolutely do not. The FFP funds just are not there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,696 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    That's assuming your not buying in properly or developing any youth players.

    I don't think any team operates on a squad full of luxury players and I include united in that too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,403 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Of course. But that isn’t happening either. The majority of the team now is gonna give you a few good quality years and then you’re in the Martinez situation.


    You look at Cash, Konsa, Digne, Pau, Tielemans, McGinn, Buendia, Watkins. All of them are likely to stay at Villa until they are no longer of the required quality to start for Villa. You won’t get very much money for them at that point and they’ll likely be on big contracts for whatever is left on their deals.


    I am not for a minute talking about rebuilding the squad and shipping the good players out. Absolutely keep going with it unless you get offers you can’t refuse. But you can’t keep adding to the list with more players who will end up that way.


    If Villa get 100 million for Rogers, you genuinely need to be filling 3 of those future holes with it. The money isn’t coming from elsewhere. The conversation is the same around FFP in every window, and realistically Villa will not be able to qualify for CL every year without fail regardless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭cgorzy


    Buying young players to develop is expensive too, a club generally will need to buy a lot of players to make it work if buying at the lower end of player cost then needs 1 in 3-4 to work out. Also if the idea is to sell players it means accepting very slow progress as a club results wise. Clubs like Brighton are about where they were under De Zerbi, Villa have gone way past them in the 3 years since we finished 7th and them 6th.

    I think Villa have worked it well, hold onto as many of your good players as you can and generate revenue through your league placing bringing Champions League money. Better for fans too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭Steady1


    Turning your nose up to Bowen, surprised at that. He has been great at West Ham. Last season, he was carrying a few team mates and the captaincy role probably didn't suit him. He was very much on the short list for the WC.

    Personally, I hope he goes no where near Villa, speaking as a West Ham fan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,696 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    No west ham players in England squad , villa have 3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,403 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    It’s how the team Emery mostly inherited that has had so much success was mostly built.

    Martinez was signed at 28 for 20 million. Matty Cash was signed at 23 for 16 million.
    Pau Torres was signed at 26 for 31.5 million

    Konsa was signed at 22 for 12 million

    Digne was signed at 29 for 25 million

    Kamara was signed at 25 for free
    Tielemans was signed at 26 for free

    McGinn was signed at 24 for 2.5 million

    Onana was signed at 23 for 50 million

    Rogers was signed at 22 for 15 million

    Watkins was signed at 24 for 30 million


    That’s the recruitment strategy that the success was built on like. Obviously Villa can pay a little bit more now (moreso on wages). It’s also much safer to sign players who have already achieved success. The problem is that Villa cannot afford to do so.


    Villa correctly don’t want to be a selling club unless they absolutely have to like Grealish/Rogers. That’s an absolutely fine strategy and you’ll get a decade of quality out of some of those lads above. But what you won’t get is the transfer fee to sign their replacement with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,403 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    He is absolutely good enough to start for Villa. Can’t afford to sign players of his profile though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭cgorzy


    All true and most of the Villa signings were made in years where the club made fairly substantial losses overall in transfers including on poor signings who left for less than was paid, something the club cannot do now because of the UEFA restrictions. Making big trading losses has been less of a problem under Emery although partly due to the restrictions.

    Probably also true that Villa’s recent success was built more on paying a massive wage to get a quality coaching team to get the best out of existing players than on the transfer strategy, including the strategy prior to Emery. Once players get established at a higher level a club can look to sell or pay them more to keep them, new contracts makes the player similar to free signings, cost more in wages but less in Amortisation. A lot of clubs are concentrating on very young signings now for huge fees so selling established 27-28 year olds can offer poor value compared to the on field contribution. Buying to sell probably means buying at 21 or under and selling a few years later and allowing other clubs to get their best years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,403 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    The key thing where Villa are unique to almost any other club in the Premier League (I would say Newcastle in the same boat), is that Villa are not signing young players to sell them at a profit. Villa signing them to get a decade of quality out of them and genuinely are not a selling club. If Villa were a selling club we would not be having this conversation because so many of the players mentioned already would have generated a pretty penny but Villa also would not have got CL twice if selling them.

    Neither club can afford to be signing a new bunch of players who are already as good as the ones already there (especially when both teams have managed to achieve CL twice), so they have to back themselves to identify players. That can go wrong, but it’s also the only way to keep up with teams who can make constant mistakes in the transfer market and it not even matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,231 ✭✭✭Patser


    I'm not sure of Bowen's preferred position. If he likes to play a wide role then that's good, but if he prefers a central role, is he good enough to dislodge Watkins? And if not, he's not good enough to start



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,331 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    He is a right winger but West Ham have played him up front on occasion (I think it was 5/6 times last season including once where he scored against us.) because they have had a long list of CF signings fail over the past few years. He is easily good enough to start for Villa and would probably be exaclty what we need (what the likes of Bailey, Sancho etc had been hoped to be) if you can look past his age.

    His age is a major concern though and it really would not make any logical sense to spend the kind of money it'd take to get him for a club like Villa at the moment considering our financial situation. That said as I suggested before if we were to sell Morgan Rodgers for more than £100m and re-invested that money into Bowen (the closest to guaranteeing replacing Rodgers output as we could probably confidently get) alongside someone like M'Baye (Much Younger but potentially already good enough to be starting for a club like Villa and with a massive ceiling) then I could see the logic. This is especially the case when we are also removing 400k per week from the wage bill through the loan players moving on (Sancho, Luiz and Elliot).



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,331 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    reports saying Villa are doing the right thing and saying they would expect a British record fee if they were to sell Rodgers.

    Also suggestions that Villa might sell Bogarde to the likes of Brighton or Boro (especially if he doesn’t sign a new deal) and bring in Senegal’s Dion Lopy for a small profit plus even if Villa more than triple Lopy’s wages he’d still only be on Bogarde’s current wage.


    Meanwhile on talksport (talking about Bowen to Villa) - Goldstein: "This will happen. I can't tell you my sources, but this will happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,403 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Bogarde obviously too young for this Villa squad



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,437 ✭✭✭Doodee


    Aston Villa fined conditional €22.5m for breaching UEFA financial rules

    Aston Villa have been fined €22.5million for breaching UEFA’s Squad Cost Rules (SCR) — but will only pay it if their compliance with the regulations takes a downturn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Panrich


    The only homegrown player as well for the CL I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,403 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Selling the only 2 players under the age of 23 to play any meaningful minutes last season would be absolutely terrifying stuff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,231 ✭✭✭Patser


    Regarding Bogarde - it has me thinking of the old Southpark episode where Britney Spears is sacrificed to the paparazzi, to ensure a good corn harvest next year.

    I feel Villa seem to select 1 player a year to develop from academy, do they can then be sacrificed to PSR Gods as 'pure profit!'



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