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Silage 2026

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭White Clover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,405 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Not at the grass anyway. Has been out for a few other jobs but nothing much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭limo_100


    baled a 6acre field today. 77 bales good enough haul I could have done with less if I’m honest. Down around 24 hours. It was shook out and wilted well. A neighbour mowed same time and I gave him a hand after my own bales where tipping me needed the one on the front to keep her down. Tedding saved me a lot of extra water. Would the yield be reduced by 10% with tedding?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,112 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Yea I do see a 10 bale per acre crop will turn into a 9 bale an acre crop with tedding so 10% would be right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭limo_100


    if it was left for another day I would have hit it again possibly being too dry then but I already have far too much silage gather this year, but could be lucky to have it if this weather keeps up



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,112 ✭✭✭DBK1


    I’d never complain about having too much silage, I’ve yet to see anyone have to dump silage, it’ll always be wanted, if not this year then next year. I’ve often fed bales that were 3 years old and they’d be perfect still.

    I wouldn’t recommend tedding twice, I know there’s plenty on here won’t agree with me but from personal experience of making and feeding out silage every which way it can be made over the years silage thats too dry is a disaster. Cattle only eat it when they’re starved and have no other choice and they won’t be happy or thrive anywhere near as good as they should. Around 30-35% dm is the optimum for bales.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭limo_100


    have to say that the bales had great shape to them and where very firm compared to the bales made two weeks ago without tedding, I’d say there will be a lot of extra feeding per bale



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,112 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Yea tedding once and 24-36 hours max on the ground is your best combination for wilt and quality. The longer grass is on the ground the less feed value it has.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭Jim Simmental


    my silage was mowed on Friday afternoon - grass would have been damp at the time.

    It was raked yesterday afternoon noon, hoping he’ll be out around 11 o’clock today to bale.

    What does anyone think is it to long on the ground ? I know contractors are under some pressure at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,405 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    We always try leave it 24 hours max if we can. It would want to be drenched when mowing to leave any more. In that 24 hours it be mowed, tedded once the mower leaves and start raking about 2 hours before the baler is due



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Nothing wrong with 48 hours, it was the done thing for years. 24/36 might be brilliant but your only 12 hours over that. Especially as yours isn't tedded I assume. When you silage is lying on the ground a week after after being cut then you can start to worry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    First of the grass getting dropped here now. Like @roosterman71 it's soft in places. Going to split the cutting over two attempts. Really hot here here and a bit of a wind.

    Should really drop it all, but don't want to be under pressure. There will be another day to get the rest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,856 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    192 bales in the bank this evening. Some relief to have it done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I agree entirely especially if it being drawn a distance. Big difference between what can be packed into a 40-50%DM bale and a 25-30%DM bale. Have 17-18 acres down and it has to be drawn 10 miles. Never ted, the contractor mows and rakes it up. If it raked up 6+ hours or more before baling it makes some job if it in weather like this. Never had an issue with cattle eating dry silage, you might think they do because the bales last so long but in reality there can be 50-70% more dry matter in the bales.

    A 900kg bale @28% DM has 250kgs of DM

    A 750 kg bale @50% DM has 375kgs of DM, 50% more feeding

    You might have 3+ bales per acres less.

    Savings, contractor here is 14/ bale to cut rake and bale. At 3 bales that is 42 euro an acre or 714 euro for 17 acres

    Plastic is 4/ bale or 12 per acre or 204 total. At a 6/ bale to draw 51 bales less is 306 euo

    Total savings is 1225 euro on 119 V 170 bales.

    The contractor says its much faster to bale dry silage compared to stuff that is down only 24 hours. He hit 110 bales an hour some place lately baling silage

    Post edited by Bass Reeves on

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭limo_100


    you would love a Tedder with this 50% silage your making 😉. What kind of a baler is he using to make 110 an hour has he a non stop fast bale? Hopefully you are using the film on film bale really helps perserve dry silage it’s really a game changer in bale silage. Also expensive so I agree with you about reducing the about of bales, bale silage is close to getting out of hand with charges



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭divillybit


    110 bales in an hour is some going…but you'd have to wonder how dense those bales are really… we make our own bales, slow n steady, 25 to 30 bales an hour with 130 horse power in front of a mchale f5500..and those bales are like rocks. Our neighbours baled on Saturday. His contractor has 170 horsepower case in front of a kuhn baler wrapper, racing around the field and those bales looked middling at best



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    A tedder cost 14-15/ acre. So f@@k the teder. Another 250 euro. Never use the film. The contractor has a Kverneland fast baler so with dry silage he can make very large bales.

    Bale silage is less than the price of pit silage unless you have to draw a substantial amount. Even paying to get it drawn at 8 bales per acre its 160/ acre. Pit supposed to be 200+ at present. But it very easy to get sucked into a high cost system and have it costing 250/ acre

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    A bale feeds 32 400kg + stores for a day. This lad makes great bales changes the baler every 2-3 of years. Is on at least his third Kverneland now. Was one of the first in the country to buy one. The only reason he loses customers is if they do not pay him. He hit that with dry silage and a heavy crop. Machine is only a few months old.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Does your contractor know you were a bit of a quisling during the fuel protests? Must be hard look him in the eyes if he does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    My contractor was too busy to be stuck at that bollaxing. He is nearly a one man operation. Has a couple of part time lads that come to drive the rake and some of the mowing but he dose all the baling.

    I have no issue looking him in the eye or my other contractor either. In there eyes we have an overriding factor. The ability to pay going out the gate. Normally pay within the week. He rang after the first cut around the 25th of May. Its was a Thursday I think he has payments to make that weekend. Monry was transfered within an hour.

    Business is business. A lot of thicko's do not understand that.

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭limo_100


    there a very impressive looking baler. I had heard that the swards in Ireland are too big to keep and make bales to fast for the wrapper but this is probably bs. Was designed by Irish engineer and it’s seems a much smaller compact unit compared to the fusion or Kuhn. Good that they’re well packed aswell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Some farmers locally myself included have handy tractors. If silage is wet he can reduce bale size so you can handle easier. That however is not an issue with dry silage he can keep the bale size large and pack away. Only time we had an issue was 3-4 years ago the knives went faulty and the bales were not chopped. However after he was raised the following May he gauranteed it would not happen again. I was not the only one that highlighted it to him.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭limo_100


    things like that can happen. Contracor chopped hay for me by mistake few years ago they where falling apart all over the place. We are all human and sh1t happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Luc

    Luckily for us, you’re not a thicko and can educate us so well. Thank you so much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    TBH Dunedin he started making the comments I just replied. But if lads want to make comments I will make comments back.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    DId a trial here a few years ago with high dm silage.Had a 20 acre block of silage down 24 hours and contractor arrived to bale,half way through the balers broke down after an electrical issue.There was a long dry spell at the time so i said to the contractor there's no panic on him returning but 24hrs later he baled it.That winter i had 2 pens of 10 400kg store bullocks of which 1 was fed the high dm stuff and the other was fed the 24hr wilted stuff.both pens were weighed at housing and turn out and the ones that received the 24hr wilted stuff did on avrage 150 grams per day more in lwg.It converted to an avrage of 25kg per head more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,369 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    DDid silage bales yesterday at outfarm 9 acres 99 bales. The inserts in the middle of the wrap were plastic, any other year recently they were cardboard . Handy for ratbait. All bales in. Nice to have it done in good weather



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,369 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    The bales were made around lunchtime and I'd a lad organised to come after work to help us bring them in. A neighbour rang just as i was starting milking to say there's alot of crows in the field I should be bringing the bales in. No offer of help. Felt like telling him to fook right off. ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭BeGrand2025


    They are great for putting at the end of a silage stack if the last one is trying to roll away.

    Couldn’t get anyone to make silage here, neighbour was the same. Not a lot of contractors around me anymore and any have more work than they can handle over these brief sunny periods. It’s a case of waiting for the next sunny spell now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,028 ✭✭✭Sami23


    That's very disappointing that you couldn't get your silage done when is was fit to do.



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