Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Glad you give a brief mention in that post to the good that NGOs do.

Criticize specifically like you have done for certain things fair enough .

However the poster I called out was criticizing Depaul which is akin to slating the Irish Cancer Society in most houses in this country .

No breakdown ,dumped a brief ill thought out comment and a link that is biased and away

Rage bait .

I appreciate your considered view on IHREC because in this and others on the left I disagree with their statements on the new EU Migration pact in general .

They are a human rights organisation. It is their job to highlight anything they feel causes legal or moral issues and to research and lobby for change

That is their brief , why they exist. We have had many instances in the past where overeager ministers were rushing headlong into practices that would have gotten us into hot water legally that have been stopped because of their intervention.

They are not here to advocate for the ordinary tax payer in Ireland , they exist to ensure that all people here are treated fairly , equally and with dignity and compassion ,Irish or not , citizen or not . Those who are vulnerable,, who have no voice .

Of course Asylum seekers fall within that brief .

While I think the new pact is a vast improvement on the Dublin Rules and disagree with IHREC and some on the left for coming out so much against it , I do think that some of the provisions are very draconian .

In this Act , detention, hubs and fingerprinting children are a minefield and need very careful handling . The positives are the provision for speedier processing and deportation of unsuccessful applicants . Also Ireland as a country under pressure will receive more money for this than it pays out for refusing IPAS .

I am glad the organisation exists however and think Ireland is a better place thanks to the input of many of the NGOs in the last 20 years or so. We , in the past had few places and people to go to if we needed a voice to lobby government . People have social media and are better educated on the whole here now and think they can handle it all themselves , maybe they can . But most people who do take on government do so with the professional aid of many NGOs .

St Vincent de Paul of course was always there fighting for people in poverty and ensuring people had clothes on their backs and food in the cupboard . Now with housing . And holding the government to account.

There are some who could be struck off for the work they don't do , I agree , but not the majority .

Answering or countering argument with "what about " like this post above .

Why should I crunch those numbers or even be asked that just because I object to posts with misinformation?

Do you not know my opinion on EU migrants who don't work , enricoh ?

Of course you don't read my posts or anyone's who you perceive to be on the "opposing side " .