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President Connolly

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Personally I think Connolly is lining up as a better President than Higgins already in tone and manner, due to how careful she is. And is even more subtle than Robinson ever was in her statements. And could arguably end up the best of the modern Presidents if she continues as she has begun. I didn’t think I would be saying that, back when the Presidential Election campaign was on.

    Mod: attack the post & not the poster!

    Post edited by gormdubhgorm on

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,037 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I’m kind of in agree with you. I was not for her as President, but so far she has more impressed me than not impressed me. She definitely has something about her. Like a very cool, calm and gentle presence!!! But with authority and style!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,058 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Somebody did say during the campaign that history shows that attaining the office makes you more presidential. Connolly had coolness and calm before and during the campaign and it was noticed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,037 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I agree. She always struck me as having that coolness, and in a nice genuine way, not an arrogant poseur way.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I think she is one of the most arrogant people I have ever seen. The second anyone counters something she believes in her only response is to call them at best misguided and at worst (as she did with Annie Sparrow) part of a global conspiracy to harm people - no matter that the object of her baseless smears is infinitely more qualified to discuss the subject than she is. She is fundamentally incapable of arguing her positions on their own merit.

    However, she is yet to display this in her role as President so I have no particular complaints about her fulfilling her role so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Some traits of that ‘orange Cxxt’ in the White House so…it’s pretty much impossible to be a barrister without being arrogant, even if regularly seen riding a ‘high nelly’ around Galway to court in a pin striped trouser suit…..you can be sure there’s an Audi / Merc / BMW parked at home in a garage…the president of Ireland has to be the ‘lamest’ of political positions possible …..meet and greet other dignitaries, attend sporting events , cut ribbons etc posture / pontificate, make bold statements but don’t really follow through etc etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,058 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


     She is fundamentally incapable of arguing her positions on their own merit.

    Harsh and exaggerated Podge.
    One of the reasons I thought she was head and shoulders above Heather and Jim was her career long contributions in the Dáil etc and her intelligent analysis of the issues she was highlighting.
    I get that folk don't agree with her or are of another political persuasion but that's ^ not a fair summary of her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,304 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Where & when is Connolly meeting PM Carney in Mayo?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,887 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Westport House on Sunday morning according to Mayo News.

    UPDATE: Details of Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney's historic Mayo visit

    https://www.mayonews.ie/news/update-details-of-canadian-prime-minister-mark-carneys-historic-mayo-visit-8666518



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,304 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Westport House is most fitting, full of history

    A new campus pilot for Co. Mayo has been announced, with classes set to begin in the historic house, in Summer 2024.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,304 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Connolly given the Freedom of Galway City today. Popped in, and listened to a most factual, concise speech. Decades of practice shows. Roughly 40%-50% of it as gaeilge, which by glancing around many attendees did not seem to follow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 716 ✭✭✭myfreespirit


    I would have to agree with you there. Full disclosure - I didn't vote for Connolly in the election and didn't particularly like the campaign she ran, BUT, her performance in the televised debates was much better and more polished than either Heather or Jim's.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I do not believe it is.

    I appreciate it is a particularly egregious example, but I can simply not forgive the fact that she essentially defamed an internationally renowned humanitarian who has done more actual work for those who face extreme hardship from conflict than Connolly ever has as being part of some made up global conspiracy to harm people because she had the temerity to disagree with her on the substance of an issue. Connolly's response was not to argue the merits of her point but to defame the character of her opponent and engage in baseless smears.

    It was the epitome of both arrogance and the absence of any intellectual heft behind her point.

    I think she engages in the same thing on a less clearly outrageous level on a consistent basis.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Sure it was. That is not much of a counter to the point though.

    All successful politicians are arrogant to some degree - but if you can sit here and tell me she has ever come across as someone who would listen to a reasoned argument against her priors then fair enough. But I don't believe it for a second.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭Juran


    CC is president, already has a prestiges high profile job, why the feck are they giving her freedon of the city ? What did she do to deserve it ? She blocked every development project for the past 20+ years..not even one sinle rubbish bin can be seen in her local area of Claddagh.

    freedom of the city should be given to ordinary people who go above and beyond the call of duty for goodwill, charity and other unpaid work and contribution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,887 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Michael D Higgins received the freedom of Galway after becoming President so it's not at all surprising to see President Connolly get the same honour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭Juran


    I didnt vote for CC, I was saw through her shite for years. My mother was a fan of hers, until she welcomed the Congo minster few weeks ago. Now my mother has changed her opinion about her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,058 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Not sure there are defined rules about who gets it.
    Just an award to recognise anyone and everyone really.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I don't think she has much choice about what Ministers she welcomes?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    What specifically is your mother's problem with Congolese ministers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,304 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    The president has no choice except to welcome State guests, that is her job. During the campaign, she was asked if Trump popped around would she be welcoming, and she said yes as that is what the role demands



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭Juran


    Listen all, I can have an opnion. You all can have yours. CC is not and will never be my president.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    If you're Irish then regardless of your opinions, she is.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I can't stand her but she is still the President.

    But it is just deluded to think that what government ministers she welcomes has any reflection on her - they welcome who the government tell them to in this respect. They do welcome people in a private capacity and that is a different matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,058 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Who else does your mum think she shouldn’t meet? Saudis? Iranians? Cubans? Drimnagh ICA?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,887 ✭✭✭✭elperello




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,058 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Are you referring to the letter to the Irish Times she co-signed? A reply to an OP-ED piece by Sparrow?

    Seems to me that the content of the letter is logically aligned to her entire political career concerns, humanity and empathy for ordinary people when they need it. There isn't much 'intellectual heft' required to do that.

    If Sparrow was indeed 'advocating withholding of humanitarian aid from very vulnerable people' then a real humanitarian of any standing was entitled to and indeed was legitimate in challenging them even if it meant pointing out - not what it definitely was, but what it 'seemed' to be a part of.

    Sparrow was fully entitled and not barred from answering the letter and did. The WHO organisation did the same when similarly accused by Sparrow. It could be said that Sparrow's address to the Dáil was an effort to 'defame' what Ireland and others were doing btw.
    Sparrow, no more than Connolly, is immune from criticism and questioning if she brings her view into the public domain or the political arena of the Dáil and those she is addressing have a right to reply, however much you think they should remain silent.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Are you referring to the letter to the Irish Times she co-signed?

    Yes. A response to an op-ed written by someone with decades of on the ground experience who had spent years treat victims of the regime on the frontlines.

    And the response did not counter a single point of Sparrow's (which is unsurprising, as none of those involved in the letter have any relevant experience) but instead resorted to baseless smears about her being part of a global conspiracy to harm people. With meaningless commentary on Gaza thrown in for bonus points.

    It was devoid of any intellectual rigour whatsoever, and the only explanation you have for someone with vastly more experience than you having a different opinion being that they must be part of a conspiracy with no aim other than to commit harm is the absolute height of arrogance.

    If Sparrow was indeed 'advocating withholding of humanitarian aid from very vulnerable people'

    She wasn't, so that throws out that particular bullshit argument.

    People mistake her general soft spoken demeanour for a lack of arrogance. She is in fact one of the most arrogant politicians I have ever seen.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,058 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It did counter. Advocating the removal of aid was wrong.

    You can disagree with that view but that would have been the effect in reality. There was no secure or consistent access from Sparrow's preferred route.
    As WHO pointed out no means of getting aid through was perfect, and some aid is better than none if your goal is to help those in need.

    Your last sentence is possibly the most over wrought and over blown one I have heard in relation to an ordinary TD doing their job.



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