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Belfast Far Right Riots 2026 [Mod Note in OP]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,452 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's rather telling that you can't answer the question. Honestly, this is some of the worst poison I've ever seen on this site.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    You do not know your facts. Look up Google

    County Cork is actually larger than the State of Palestine.

    County Cork, covers a total land area of approximately 7,508 square kilometers.

    By comparison, the recognized State of Palestine (comprising both the West Bank and the Gaza Strip) spans a combined area of about 6,020 square kilometers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    "They breed like rabbits and multiply like vermin"

    Ian Paisley 1969

    "Increasing rapidly as always"

    Francis McM 2026



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Ah but I say it with love , to help them out. Given the amount of Palestinians has increased tenfold - actually more than tenfold - since 1947, they cannot, all 15,5 million of them now, live in a place smaller that Cork. Why not let a few million of them in here? Their fellow Arabs in neighbouring Egypt will not let them in or help them, why should'nt we show some Christian hospitality and accommodate them? We have plenty of space.

    If we let in 2 million of them, we could have over 20 million of them in 79 years time - think of the great soccer team we could have for the world cup then with that amount of extra people to choose from?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭aero2k


    And when you yourself can't or won't answer perfectly reasonable questions, is that equally telling, and what is it telling us?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Maybe he's measuring 'from the river to the sea'?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Sources were given in post 663. Of course, it all depends what you call "Palestine". But the point remains. It is overpopulated compared to parts of Ireland. Lets let in a few million?

    County Cork is actually larger than the State of Palestine.

    County Cork, covers a total land area of approximately 7,508 square kilometers.

    By comparison, the recognized State of Palestine (comprising both the West Bank and the Gaza Strip) spans a combined area of about 6,020 square kilometers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Just a joke. You're correct, I've no idea what he's on about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,001 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Just have one quick question for you. What has any of this got to do in a thread that is about far right goons rioting and burning people out of their houses in Belfast?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    The thread is about immigration, and immigrants coming from cultures very different to ours. Another poster said some may come because of wars - I pointed out some may come because of overcrowding in the own countries, as well as a higher quality of life here.

    If there are 15.5 million Palestinians and Palestine is smaller than Co. Cork, should'nt we help out and let in a few million?

    Of all places in the world, they would feel very at home here given the number of Palestinian flags etc?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,001 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    I just did a quick double check. The thread title is still "Belfast Far Right Riots 2026"

    Not sure how this drivel about the size of Cork is applicable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,945 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Francis Mc - "all 15,5 million of them now, live in a place smaller that Cork"

    You haven't a clue what you are talking about. Get your facts right for a start.

    The State of Palestine comprises the West Bank and Gaza. The total population is less than 6 million people. There is a genuine risk of displacement and migration because of what Israel is doing in both areas (e.g. genocide, starvation, settlers). The total area of Palestine is less than the size of County Cork but that is irrelevant.

    Your 15.5 million figure is the total global population of Palestinians. Many of those live in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt etc. Some of these are large countries sunshine.

    If say 2 million people flee the State of Palestine (Gaza + WB) and go to the EU, we will need to take our fair share of that number as per the EU Migration Pact.

    As for their increasing population and diaspora, you're just being a weirdo on that point.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Certain places are over-populated, that was the point of explaining how attractive the island of Ireland is to someone living in poverty in an overcrowded place. We have plenty of space here.

    What were the riots about in Dublin and Belfast in recent years about immigrants?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Wrong. See post no 653 where I wrote: "I never said they all lived in Palestine. That was my point. Lets have a few million of them here, why not?"

    I was always aware not all Palestinians live in Palestine. That is my point. 15.5 million Palestinians can not and do not live in Palestine. Some live in Jordan etc. Why should not we do our bit and take in a few million too?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,001 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Great to know. What has this got to do with the Belfast riots?

    You seem a bit lost here on this thread.

    Have you anything to say about the rioters in Belfast and the disgusting behaviour by burning innocent people out of their houses?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Obviously everyone, well most people, condemn anyone resorting to violence and /or burning people out of their homes. However there are root causes why people come here in the first place. The Sudaese man charged with attempted murder, who came to N.I. via entering the island at Dublin, came here more than likely looking for a better quality of life for himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,001 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Still does not really explain why you keep banging on about the size of Cork.

    "If there are 15.5 million Palestinians and Palestine is smaller than Co. Cork, shouldn't we help out and let in a few million?"

    What has this got to do with the far right riots discussed in this thread?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,967 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Indeed.

    There's a fierce bang of Irish hating little Englander wannabe's off certain types on this site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Belfast riots, I remember them. Back in the day when the rioters would be either Loyalist or Republican, pelting Police Land Rovers with petrol bombs and bricks, but now it's 2026 and the rioting is different, with new aims and new enemies …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,945 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Why are you now telling lies? You literally said it twice:

    "If there are 15.5 million Palestinians and Palestine is smaller than Co. Cork" (Post 671)

    "all 15,5 million of them now, live in a place smaller that Cork" (Post 665)

    It's less than 6 million. Admit that.

    Then you said "Why should not we do our bit and take in a few million too?" - I didn't say that. I said if your heroes in Israel force say 2 million to flee to the EU as asylum seekers, we will need to take our fair share under the EU Migration Pact. This is very simple - why can you not understand it? I suppose you think Israel will take them come back into Gaza or West Bank? Naive?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    This time the rioters a few nights ago were loyalists rioting because a catholic man got stabbed and lost an eye.

    We have had rioting south of the border against, or because of, the perceived threat of immigration too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,730 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    relax, normal service will be resumed in the coming weeks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    "loyalists rioting because a catholic man got stabbed"

    If you honestly believe that then you are even more clueless than your other posts here would suggest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Wrong. You did not read the post correctly. I wrote " Ah but I say it with love , to help them out. Given the amount of Palestinians has increased tenfold - actually more than tenfold - since 1947, they cannot, all 15,5 million of them now, live in a place smaller that Cork. Why not let a few million of them in here? Their fellow Arabs in neighbouring Egypt will not let them in or help them, why should'nt we show some Christian hospitality and accommodate them? We have plenty of space.

    If we let in 2 million of them, we could have over 20 million of them in 79 years time - think of the great soccer team we could have for the world cup then with that amount of extra people to choose from?"

    I'm very well aware not all 15.5 million Palestinians live in Palestine. That was my point. Some live elsewhere, for example Jordan. They will not take in any more Palestinians. Their fellow Arab country to the south will not take in any, and has built a massive wall and buffer zone to keep them out. I never mention Israel in this thread at all, but the number of muslims in Israel has increased in recent decades and they do not want any more.

    So it is up to us to help out immigrants, no matter where they are from. We have plenty of space in this country. The people rioting against immigrants are all wrong, we can agree on that.

    One question. When the Sudanese man who stabbed the person in Belfast came in to the country it was through Dublin airport. Did he enter illegally? Why did he go up North? We can all brace ourselves for further immigration, there will be millions coming.

    Look at the positives. We could have a great soccer team, with 40 or 50 million to choose from , in a few generations time.

    As a society we also have to look at the negatives: do we want mass immigration or not? And are we willing to have stricter controls at airports if not? There are stories of People tearing up their passports, or the passports being smuggled back out and reused, and people being let in to the country without passports or background checks.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    What i utterly condemn is the instances were individuals and families were targeted in their homes.  I place no blame or responsibility on anyone for trying to improve their life by migrating and I can see the attraction of moving to Belfast.   

    I obviously have a problem with the authorities, processes and systems that allow people to arrive in this country with zero checks or processes, and also a system that allows them to stay even when they have been identified as dangerous to our society.  

    I completely support people arriving here who want to set up life and contribute to our Society and integrate into our communities, and indeed enrich our communities with positive aspects of their culture (the negative aspects should not be tolerated or accepted).  

    It was very sad to watch hoses being burned and families fleeing, but unfortunately our Society still lives with the legacy of a violent conflict where both loyalists and the PIRA burned endless people out of their homes simply because of their religion.   This is something we have to continue to unlearn. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,116 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    Not new refugees since 2023 though - and they have previously expelled and massacred thousands in the past, so you prove my point: who accuses the Jordanians of Palestinian genocide? Nobody.


    So since Oct 2023, Egypt in particular (but also Jordan) did not take in significant numbers of refugees unless they paid large sums of money. So when posters here say that Ireland will be swamped with Palestinian refugees if the situation isn’t solved soon - why should Ireland be involved unless Ireland decides to take them?

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,116 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    That’s easy. It’s like when RTE was showing images of Gazans fleeing on foot from the north to the south of Gaza, and I pointed out to the people I was with that the maximum distance was comparable to walking from Derry to Letterkenny, they couldn’t believe it. RTE made it look like the Trail of Tears.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,116 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    Lots of nationalists used to use the same argument though - that we would “outbreed” them. I remember being told (by adults when I was a child) that in every generation there was a majority of catholic children in primary schools but that there was always a majority of unionists in the population of voting age. The point being that sooner or later this majority would disappear. Of course then catholics started using contraception so that put paid to that.

    And Palestinians say exactly the same thing, with slogans such as “The wombs of our women are our best weapon”.

    So is that islamophobic of them to say that? Or is it ok when they say it’s their strategy?

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    Personally I dislike intensely any lazy stereotyping of a race, nationality or subset of the human race.

    The Irish are all … / women are … / black people are … / Jews are all … / etc. etc.

    It's all designed to create a stereotype which will be followed by divisions which then creates a standing for the people that have pushed the narrative in the first place.

    When that subset start to use the stereotype to describe themselves, it's an attempt to take control of the narrative (eg. the use of the n-word by hip-hop artists and your example above of the Palestinian slogan)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    And when I pointed out that in 2008, the population of the Gaza Strip was approximately 1.44 million…….and by 2026, the population is roughly 2.1 million…..they cannot all live in such a tiny area. Some countries and places have an average birth rate per woman of 6 or 7 : the decision for us in the west is do we allow people from overcrowded countries in to Ireland?



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