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So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    You can certainly mute Musk. I did it ages ago and didn't see him on my timeline. Of course I'm not going to see him on my Following part, but any time I've drifted into the For You part I've never seen him there either. Ditto for others I've muted.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭plodder


    Is that really the best example you can come up with?

    Why is The Boston Children's Hospital performing gender affirming surgeries at all?

    Presumably because the children are put on the pathway to surgery when they are much younger. And you are incorrect in stating that they never perform them on children under 18. While they don't perform genital surgery on under 18s (and it's fairly horrible to think that they would/do on a child's 18th birthday) but they do perform the other surgeries mentioned on 15 year olds with parental consent. A paper was only published the other day which adds more credence to the "Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria" hypothesis and that its principles need to be incorporated in the DSM. Gender activists have done their best to thwart this effort and whether anyone likes it or not, Chaya Raichik has helped to shine a light on the practice, regardless of whatever other stuff she peddles. I used to follow her but don't any more because I think there isn't the same need for that kind exposure in 2026 as there was in 2020.

    What do you think of the Irish surgeon in Florida who advertised these surgeries to teenagers on TikTok FFS? The Irish Times has run a couple of pieces about her, but they never mentioned that once. If it wasn't for social media, including X, all of these practices would be completely unquestioned.

    It goes without saying that people shouldn't make bomb threats - just like they shouldn't try to shoot the US president. Leaving aside that Raichik was actually correct in this case, it can never be a justification for suppressing discussion or exposure of shady practices even if not all the discourse is 100% factual.

    I usually make an effort to reply to good faith posts here, but people saying that I'm "slavishly praising" Musk (or worshipping X) or that anyone should be "compelled" to use X, I don't have the time to reply to all that nonsense.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,151 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Because there are transgender teens so they provide supports to those teens... You can rant away but libsoftiktok lied and it's one of many instances of them lying. You don't seem to care about the numerous innocent individuals that are targeted as a result of them. I'd suspect you're the same guy who has no objections to the likes of Philip Dwyer harassing creche staff of Derek Blighe harassing library staff. It's pretty shameful behavior though towards people who do an exceptional public service.

    That's one of the more telling pieces. All of the targets of these kinds of groups are people who do legitimate public services. Teachers(libs of tik tok heavily targeted LGBT teachers) to creche staff to librarians. Meanwhile groups like libs scaremonger and do nothing of merit. They're sad, angry and bigoted. But they'll still fawn over a rapist as president etc.

    You can argue as you want on this but I'd suspect most people aren't buying it. Also the fact that the account is so popular indicates the kind of user the platform is attracting. It's not a moderate or normal one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,438 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's terrifying how many people think misinformation is fine just because it's their side doing it. There was an innocent police officer in the UK who had to flee for his life recently over this.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,438 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I've removed X from my life but this was my experience as well. He never showed up in either the "For You" or the "Following" feeds.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,151 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Also the fact that some posters don't seem to mind that medical staff are being threatened. This is the kind of stuff that resulted in assassinations and bombings of planned parenthood clinics in the past... Now we've got a billionaire egging it on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,438 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    A lot of them will be anti-vaxxers who think that medical staff are just big pharma puppets.

    I think any historian's verdict of these decades and the vast troves of power we gave to scum like Musk will be damming. There's not even a benefit to anyone but him. At least Standard Oil employed a lot of people.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭plodder


    "I'd suspect you're the same guy …" is that what you are reduced to now?

    One last point. In a way I admire Helen Webberley (GP who prescribes hormones to confused kids over the internet) for sticking on X because she gets roasted like this regularly.

    Screenshot 2026-06-12 at 10.35.16.png

    Some of the other counter examples like "urinal cakes" and "clothes horses" are quite amusing

    So you see I get what is behind what you all are doing here (even if some of you don't get it yourselves). If that kind of mockery were normalised (again) in polite society, then none of this gender madness would be happening. And that's exactly what Chaya Raichik was doing in the early years at least. Exposing gender ideology to severe mockery by nothing more than repeating its own words back to it, albeit with a jaundiced eye and caustic comment. Because nothing that wants to be taken seriously can survive that.

    The exact same thing happened with religion in this country starting 30-40 years ago. Once people felt confident enough to mock it, that was the beginning of the end. Sorry, I should add that's what happened to the Catholic religion. We're not quite so confident mocking other religions because of you know what ..

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,438 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's telling that any kind of mild disagreement is framed as some kind of attack.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,675 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Consistently moving the bar slowly slowly each time until the N word use can be normalized without batting an eyelid.

    All under the guise of 'you can't say anything anymore'.

    These are the type of people who think jovial taunting of young gay people back into the closet would be an acceptable use of time. That's the end goal really.

    Less freedom.

    More 'our type' of freedom.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,151 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Since you're intent on downplaying bomb threats and other threats because of manufactured nonsense. I think it's entirely fair. When people do start dying as a result of her targeting an individual or just making up nonsense about a group, I'm sure you'll downplay her role. That's very different to journalists reporting on facts.

    And I'll say it again, it says a lot about the platform when that's one of the most popular accounts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,438 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The thing that cooks my noodle is that the people pushing this, including Musk, maybe especially Musk, will do the same to the working classes the second it suits them.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,675 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Oh it suits him. He has his Space X ipo scam launching today.

    On in which he got major deep regulations changed last year by Trump's regulators so that he can't be held accountable or sued by shareholders. How he appoints the board entirely and they answer to him and not the company or shareholders.

    And this year managed to force the NASDAQ to change their rules for IPO entry all by trump lackies which means they will disregard all previous safe rules for launching a company IPO including oversight and financial due diligence.

    The S&P managed to hold the line in this regard.

    There will be a lot of working people and pensioners holding the bag on this farce and his Twitter investors will get their money back and let it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    The role of Space X in indices is overstated, it will be his cultist followers and people who think they can beat the big players who will be the ultimate bag holders.

    I still can’t believe there are people on this thread who will defend a man who made the below public as his mission statement.

    “To build the systems and technologies necessary to make life multiplanetary, to understand the true nature of the universe, and to
    extend the light of consciousness to the stars.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,763 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    It was only about 4% of space x shares that won't for sale today.Elon will still own 85% of the company.

    In the contract for this ipo he won't get much unless certain criteria is reached that will take time.

    Just checked and I can now buy space x shares on Revolut.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,675 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Do not do this

    And no your wrong when he combined all the companies together this year that wipes all the previous milestones commitments for performance.

    He's in do what he likes mode.

    Also retail shares have a no sale without penalty period s your locked in and holding that bag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,763 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    I wasn't giving financial advice as with anything do your own research.

    I think it's great fun all the same. :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭plodder


    Misinformation can be a matter of opinion. If anything, @eightieschewbaccy was peddling misinformation about Boston Children's Hospital doing gender surgery on children. It turns out they were advertising genital surgery for teens as young as 17, until they were exposed and they suddenly pulled all their advertising material and then claimed it was only for over 18s. So Libs of tiktok was right all along.

    https://www.ewtnnews.com/world/us/boston-children-s-hospital-changes-website-denies-performing-genital-surgeries-on-17-year-olds-after-backlash

    As for it being fine only when one's own side is doing it, I'm not the one calling for restrictions on people talking about this stuff. So, I don't care which "side" is doing it. There will always be disinformation from radical campaigners and ideologues of all colours and misinformation from people who buy into their bullshit like one or two on this thread.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,151 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/08/17/boston-childrens-hospital-transgender-treatment/

    An archived version of Boston Children’s website appeared to state that vaginoplasties, the surgical construction of a vagina, were available to 17-year-olds. The hospital said that while patients could receive surgical consultations at 17, they must be “between 18 and 35 years of age at the time of surgery.” An updated version of the website reflects that policy, the hospital said.

    So nope, still not wrong. Do you have any evidence that anyone 17 or younger received surgery? Surely you should be able to provide some references to at least one? It would be the smoking gun to prove your claim. I'm guessing at 17 they'd be on a waiting list like any other patient. Anyway, this continues to read like you justifying terrorizing medical professionals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭plodder


    Still wrong. Link below to where they offer chest reconstruction to 15 year olds with parental consent. I pointed this out yesterday and you didn't respond. If you are hanging your misinformation hat on the specific charge of performing genital surgery on minors then first you need to show where Raichik claimed that specifically. Even if she were wrong on that specific point, the fact that they pulled all their cutesy information videos and most other material proves fairly conclusively that they didn't have confidence in it and that it led to a reasonable view that that's what they were doing.

    Vaginoplasty which they (and don't forget who are a Children's Hospital) perform on 18 year olds involves removing a boy's penis and testes and constructing an artificial neo-vagina, which requires a lifetime of care including dilation to stop it closing up. Chest reconstruction which is much more common and can be done on 15 year old girls involves removing healthy breasts, and depending whether you can afford to pay extra or not, it is with or without nipples being replaced.

    Raichik and Chris Elston (aka Billboard Chris) deserve immense credit for exposing this. Reasonable people (outside the Democrat, loony left, and gender industry bubbles) can see this, whether they are prepared to admit it or not. These points being arguable at all proves beyond all doubt that she was not peddling misinformation and if anyone is, it's people like you.

    https://negendercare.org/consortium-members/bch/

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,675 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Why do you want to poke you nose into other people's healthcare who the hell are you that it's any of your business?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,850 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Amazing. Musk becomes the world's first trillionaire at a time when income inequality and the gap between rich and poor is ever widening, after he's helped the US government strip away financial supports while also using government grants to enrich himself, and the thread is currently about trans healthcare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,438 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    He's also responsible for countless deaths via what he did to USAID. Truly one of the worst people of all time.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,151 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    That's with parental consent after assessments. That's radically different to their claim of "gender-affirming hysterectomies". You can keep going on about them being a children's hospital but they support patients up till 25. Hospital staff lives were placed in danger due to the account pushing misinformation. That's a fact. I'm sure you'll justify the threatening of library staff and teachers too.

    Anyway I'll leave you off to your infatuation with trans youths...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭plodder


    Do not do this

    I hope you know more about Space X than you do about Twitter … 🙂

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭plodder


    It was a surprise to me that US taxpayers were keeping so many of the world's poorest alive. They certainly never got any acknowledgement for it. Show me a post where you acknowledged it, and I'll take your opinion seriously.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,438 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Given your weird obsessions with trans people and the Kalergi plan conspiracy theory, I think I'll survive you not taking my opinion seriously.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,151 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    General fiscal aid access ike the Marshall Plan and pretty much operates to benefit and keep the US secure. Plus things like vaccines and virology tend to keep pandemics at bay. USAID was hugely beneficial to the US and pretty contributes to the US in terms of intelligence plus economics. Not to mention the fact DOGE cuts ended up increasing costs for the US while not revealing fraud.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭plodder


    the Kalergi plan conspiracy theory

    Never heard of it

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭plodder


    This reads like the wikipedia entry for it. Show me where you said something positive about it and I'll take you seriously as well

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



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