Tesla Talk 2

Enjoy! Maybe read the paper in the above link.

Evening .

How long will this hiatus last

That is a really good question and my commute has some narrow roads too with no line markings. I wonder how FSD would "navigate" these roads even though there is enough space for passing vehicles. There is a small bridge where only one way travel can happen at one any one time and there are no traffic lights. It's only about 30m, but I wonder how FSD would work that out if it was the leading car and another car on the other side was about to cross. Humans often make mistakes here and start crossing after a car on the other side has already entered the bridge stretch.

I didn't pick this up til now, because you didn't tag me properly.

I looked over the paper this morning. Thanks by the way for the effort. So I had a quick read. Actually most of what was in the paper, I was already aware of to a degree, but I didn't have the industry lingo or depth of knowledge. Honestly, it's more than I need to know to form, or maintain my opinion and i'd appreciate it if you stop assuming people know nothing about the subject. By all means, share what you know, but don't think I know nothing. It's an area of personal interest, but I don't deep dive into all the available data, as there is so much conflict and fluff at the moment.

Multi Object Tracking is indeed a very complicated problem to solve and even us humans can be fooled in this regard under various scenarios and road conditions. Fatigue, or even prescription drugs can have a huge impact on our ability to track the road and our surroundings. Let's not even start on the plague of mobile phone use while driving! At least the cameras are always paying attention to the roads…and our eyes with HW3 and 4 in Tesla vehicles.

I'm not convinced that Lidar is a necessary redundancy, or blend, as it brings its own problems with integration alone. I can see the argument for and against and i'm not convinced either way.

The bigger problem I see with Teslas multi-camera approach is the ability to make use of all that extra data and be able to process it quickly enough for it to have any use and for the system not to crap itself and hit the brakes for reasons unknown to the driver/passenger. They have billions of miles of data, but that doesn't mean they have all the data they need to get the system to where they want it to be for L5 autonomous driving, where I can get wasted, fall into the back seat and my car will drive me home.

However, it does mean that at the moment, the stats are coming in to say that the existing setup is safer than human only driving. Would I trust the car to take me home while I work in the back seat? No, I wouldn't. Do I think my journey will be safer with FSD engaged and me in the driver seat? Absolutely. That is what is key for me. It's safer than humans alone.

For personal context i'll add this. I've been in multiple collisions over the years. I'm a statistical outlier based on my mileage, as each incident I have been rear ended when stationary. I've had 3 significant accidents in 10 years resulting in injury. First one was a young driver, driving too fast, rear ended me, busted my lower back and I needed surgery. I was left with chronic pain. The second one was a driver on her phone on the M50. I had come to a stop in traffic and she didn't. Even at relatively low speed and minor damage to my car, I was injured. The third one I had been waiting in traffic when a woman allegedly blacked out, swerved into my lane, side swiped the car behind me and smashed into my car. That one put me into hospital and I haven't been right since. I think the driver had taken a drink (there was a definite smell of wine on her breath), but the Gardaí wouldn't breathalyse her,

My back and neck are fcuked. I've had surgery and have chronic pain and even today I am off work because I can't walk with the pain and I would be a hazard on site. Careless and distracted drivers have genuinely ruined my life. I'll be alright later though…i'm not crippled, it's just one of my bad mornings and will take me a few hours to get going. So, you see, I don't want FSD because it will be a cool function on my car. I want it because it's safer than humans alone. The more people that have access to such tech, the better.

I'd be more interested to know what happens when a Tesla meets a BYD.