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Belfast Far Right Riots 2026 [Mod Note in OP]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭Firstsub


    Hurricane Sammy, minus the moustache, bares a striking striking resemblance to Trump. Epic Fury



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Indeed it was not empty. The native population of the US had a rather laissez-faire immigration policy, de-facto the same one as we have now. It worked out extremely poorly for them.

    When the history of our participation in the colonisation of the US is trotted out the intention is always to impose upon us some sort of responsibility to accept being colonised ourselves. The people who recite the story have limited minds: they fall for the morality tale, and they ignore the warning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    Honestly that's pathetic. I'm not racist and my post was not racist. Slurring me as such to shut me down is downright nasty.

    The history provided for the individual in question shows a patchy awareness of his history and movements before he arrived in Northern Ireland. News paper reports I've read state he arrived in Paris at an unknown date and it is not known how long he was resident there. He then arrived in Ireland and then to NI.

    The Times had an article today he was granted leave to remain after filling out a ten page questionnaire with no interview process under a scheme to Fast track asylum scheme. That is not sufficient to verify anyone's identity or suitability for refuge.

    To be fair to asylum seekers AND legal residents of a country asylum seekers should be thoroughly vetted and approved before right to residence and supports are granted. The Irish government already does so as part of their international commitments; arranging visas, residence, social supports for people living in overseas refugee camps who have been approved and vetted.

    People appearing without documents and claiming asylum cheat those people and cheat the taxpayers of the countries they arrive in.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Labour ministers including Hillary Benn are saying Ireland has questions to answer. I personally think the checks at Dublin airport should be tightened up and deportations enforced.

    I hope the Migration Pacts additional checks will help prevent this in future. It came into force in Ireland I think yesterday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    The biggest lie is that it is only one community at fault.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭TerrieBootson


    Oh for Pete's sake! Don't reply if you don't comprehend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,436 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Nobody said that though. You knew that when you posted this.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,011 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Huge issues around criminality, paramilitary affiliated gangs, summer rioting and street disturbances, dangerous no go areas, one of the poorest and most run down regions in the UK etc. The idea that the real risk to people in NI comes from asylum seekers is risible - the population of the province is 97% white and only 6% of people were born outside of Britain or Ireland.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    A man has lost his left eye and suffered stab wounds to his back and face. It only takes 1 thug or criminally insane person to get through to cause that and it's one too many.

    We have the Central Mental Hospital for the convicted criminally insane. I think we should consider preventative detention of psychiatrists believe someone is a violent threat to the public based on psychiatric conditions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    "Northern Ireland has one of the highest murder rates of women (if not the highest) in Europe."

    Thats not true.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,114 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    I thought the mass vilification part had happened - I frequently see men complaining about the prejudice they are the victims of.

    But there’s a completely different problem when the violence is being committed by migrants or asylum seekers, and that is why are they here in the first place?

    Arabic tweeters are saying that this guy may have been part of the Janjaweed militia, but even if that’s wrong, and even if he turned out to be the exact opposite, a victim of the Janjaweed, there’s a real question of whether people who are seriously disturbed by what they’ve lived through can be safely left to their own devices in a society that can’t deal with them?

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Honestly that's pathetic. I'm not racist and my post was not racist. Slurring me as such to shut me down is downright nasty.

    Nope. My reading of what you have written is that you appear racist.

    I also haven't shut you down. I have actually challenged pretty much all of your points and so far, you've not really tried to respond. I see that as being pathetic.

    The history provided for the individual in question shows a patchy awareness of his history and movements before he arrived in Northern Ireland. News paper reports I've read state he arrived in Paris at an unknown date and it is not known how long he was resident there. He then arrived in Ireland and then to NI.

    You previously told us that you don't know about his immigration checks but are confident to describe his history as patchy because he isn't being described fully by the media? Why should the media be able to have this information on anyone FFS?

    The Times had an article today he was granted leave to remain after filling out a ten page questionnaire with no interview process under a scheme to Fast track asylum scheme. That is not sufficient to verify anyone's identity or suitability for refuge.

    Apparently Badenoch has apologised for him being fast tracked by the then Conservative government (and appeared to use her apology really as a stick to hit her conservative leadership opponent). I still have not read any details about how he was processed so other than what I've written, I'm not aware.
    Nonetheless, his asylum application, as I've previously said to you, was refused.

    To be fair to asylum seekers AND legal residents of a country asylum seekers should be thoroughly vetted and approved before right to residence and supports are granted. The Irish government already does so as part of their international commitments; arranging visas, residence, social supports for people living in overseas refugee camps who have been approved and vetted.

    HE WAS REFUSED ASYLUM FFS! 🙄
    Anyhow, why are you now talking about the asylum process in a different jurisdiction?

    People appearing without documents and claiming asylum cheat those people and cheat the taxpayers of the countries they arrive in.

    I don't think anyone claimed otherwise?
    Nonetheless, you will always get people who flee for whatever reason and lose documents - a migrant not having documents isn't always down to them trying to deceive despite what you might have read on the likes of grift.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    The racist accusation is thrown around too liberally.

    For example, I would hold the view that our asylum system, whether EU-mandated or not, is too liberal and too generous. I also think that our English language schools are being used as a backdoor for economic migration.

    At the same time, I believe that we need to have more work visas, both for skills shortages in healthcare, construction, pharma and IT, where we have such shortages, but also for the jobs that the Irish won't do. We also need to bring in postgraduate students to increase the research potential of the country, to continue our move up the economic ladder.

    So, at times, I will appear to share some views you would deem as racist, but favouring a differentiated immigration policy that benefits Ireland as an economy and a society rather than catering to all comers, is not racist per se.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    Except they did. Here you go:

    As I said, the biggest lie is that it is only one community at fault.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,436 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    That's all true, though. You've just accused people of lying because you don't like the facts.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    He was refused asylum but granted leave to remain until 2028. So you're being pedantic.

    An extremely dangerous individual, which I have judged based on his verified actions, was allowed stay in NI based on a ten page questionnaire , where he committed a barbaric and inhumane crime.

    I think that's appalling.

    Please point out what exactly is racist in wgat I am saying. Because if you don't highlight anything I will report you for hostile posting.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Playing Devil's Advocate, I think the original claim referred to Western Europe rather that Europe. Plus, I think the claim referred to just one year - 2017.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,786 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I've always felt that there should be a joint EU border patrol and immigration policy. Somebody comes from Ukraine or Syria and shows up in Poland or Greece. they get processed where they enter and then get sent to on of the 27 great countries for asylum in a fair manner that means no one country bears more of the weight than another one

    Somebody crosses from France across the Irish sea gets their application automatically denied and given a one way ticket back to wherever they came from for not making themselves known at the point they entered the EU. Could get the UK involved as well and the rafts crossing the channel would be stopped almost overnight



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    He was refused asylum but granted leave to remain until 2028. So you're being pedantic.

    I responded directly to your claims and didn't rewrite your words.

    An extremely dangerous individual, which I have judged based on his verified actions, was allowed stay in NI based on a ten page questionnaire , where he committed a barbaric and inhumane crime.

    He committed the crime a few years after his application. What was in his application that told HMG that he would carry out this act?

    Please point out what exactly is racist in wgat I am saying. Because if you don't highlight anything I will report you for hostile posting.

    I have already told you that my reading of your posts is that they come across that way. Be my guest and report away if you wish by clicking the Flag button.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,673 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    1800 friends....

    These accounts seem suspect on that alone. It almost like they're paid or troll accounts to amplify whatever grievance.

    There's no random average person with 1800 friends . Utter fluff, why do people even listen to this 'accounts'.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I couldn't help thinking that she seems like a "speak English or die" type despite not being able to speak it herself!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,673 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Or she's not real, or she gets reposted for saying and doing outrageous things. There's a lot of 'incel' type behavior male and female that goes into spreading nonsense. They get validation from it and suddenly infamy and people are noticing me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    Which is a fair point but why abandon all the nationalist people who are the same as us , would you like to be left in a failed British colony.
    The people of large parts of Armagh , Tyrone. Fermanagh , Derry , South Down have more in common with us than these loyalist head the balls .



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Actually - where exactly did I call you racist?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,436 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's a package deal. You can't pick and choose. You either take both sides or leave them to it.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭strathspey


    Why can't we do like the Swiss. The passenger list is filed before take-off, if any passengers are flagged, border police/immigration control enter the plane and demand to see passports. Those without passports are immediately returned to the airport the plane originated from.

    Also, the Swiss have a very clever system of keeping undesirables out of their neighbourhoods. To be able to purchase a house in certain cantons you have to garner the signatures of approval from the neighbours……how absolutely clever. We need to send our civil servants on a crash course to Switzerland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Ah, and now that your nonsense has been exposed, you resort to implying I'm not intelligent enough to understand.

    It's all a cycle. Same things said over and over again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    It's no surprise it's primarily the unionist/loyalist rioting. They have plenty of previous when it comes to this type of stuff.

    I wouldn't have anything to do with them. Absolute filth, and full of hate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    how would that system cope with an Open Border similar to what the republic and Northern Ireland share?



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