Belfast Far Right Riots 2026 [Mod Note in OP]

take everything · 10-06-2026 05:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540188#Comment_124540188

I don't want to rephrase anything really. Who was the one person making that reply out of dozens in that Reddit thread.

Obviously the majority of crime in any country is going to be commited by the native population (which is not addressing the chart posted at all) which seems to be their main point. The other point made is the moot caveat above and countered anyway if you dig into it further, like with the wiki article extracts below.

More importantly if you read the Immigration in Denmark wikipedia article, you will find towards the bottom of that page these three paragraphs with citations below a graph with citations for StatBank Denmark (a graph very similar to what is posted above).

The paragraphs in that article that are particularly striking are:

Danish national police reported in 2012 that conviction rates per 1000 residents in Denmark were: 12.9 for Danish citizens, 114.4 for Somali citizens and 54.3 for citizens of other countries.[111]

According to a 2015 report by Statistics Denmark, men born abroad had a 43% higher crime rate compared to the average of all men in Denmark. The highest rates were recorded from males from Lebanon, Somalia, Morocco, Syria and Pakistan. For male descendants of non-Western immigrants, the discrepancy was greater at 144%.[112]

According to the 2016 report by Statistics Denmark, the crime rate of non-Western male migrants was about three times that of the male population in Denmark. When correction for the greater proportion youth among non-Western migrants are taken into account and is adjusted for, the crime rate was two and half times that of the general male population.[113] Male immigrants and male descendants from EU countries were among males with the lowest crime rate. When corrected for age, male immigrants from Germany, Sweden, Italy and the United Kingdom crime indices of less than half (43-48%) the average of all males in Denmark. Descendants from nearly all countries showed an over-representation, except descendants with roots in Iceland, Sri Lanka and Vietnam. Syrian male descendants stand out where their crime rate is three times that of Syrian immigrants.[114]

Cluedo Monopoly · 10-06-2026 05:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540297#Comment_124540297

I heard a statistic the other day relating to our falling birth rates - 25% of children born today are to mothers that were not born in Ireland. I am just saying I heard this on the radio, I have no problem with this statistic. I know we need inward migration for economic reasons.

Dick phelan · 10-06-2026 05:10PM

Might seem bad but I'd end the asylum system in Europe entirely. These people don't benefit us in any way. I frankly don't care about them. If their own country is unliveable dump they need to work harder to make it better. The right number of asylum seekers from the Congo, Sudan, Eritrea or whatever should be zero.

ancapailldorcha · 10-06-2026 05:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540398#Comment_124540398

Would you have said the same of Ireland between 1845-1852? It's a dump and millions died because we weren't bothered to make it better?

Ozymandius2011 · 10-06-2026 05:13PM

Because of the obvious role of the Loyalist paramilitaries in any riots that occur in Loyalist areas for decades, I think that parallels with protests in other places are not necessarily completely the same. The Loyalist no-go areas also keep their communities in deprivation because of their protection rackets. its probably true that they are trying to exploit this situation but their ties to the National Front in the past and to the Populist Right in the UK are well known.

Even so that doesnt explain protests related to things like this elsewhere in the world. I think there is a general change of mood on migration in some countries. In some countries it has even penetrated into social classes that were previously pro immigration. The billionaires played a big role in promoting immigration and multiculturalism since World War II, as they needed to replace labour shortages, and multiculturalism was seen as a way of ensuring harmony in a diverse workforce but avoid stepping on each other's cultural sensitivities. However I think as time has gone on, the balance of sensitivities has been seen as some as being overly skewed to the point that even displaying one's national flag is now being termed "Far Right".

Today we see billionaires funding the Populist Right and openly calling on people to vote for them. And ironically, some of these billionaires are themselves immigrants. So I think some of it is White Nationalism. But I don't think all of those concerned about migration are Populist Right or White Nationalist. Some are concerned about competition for services, especially in deprived areas where manual labour was once the expected outlet for employment e.g. the hospitality sector and agrifood.

Personally I support the EU Migration Pact and think that Brexit has made migration harder for the UK to manage, because of lost cooperation e.g the Dublin Convention, between the UK and EU. The Migration pact tightenes up identity checks, age verification, and allows for either redistribution or payment in lieu of distribution of migrants. It also allows for future deportations to Third Country hubs in safe countries. I support this since the idea behind asylum is supposed to be safety, not labour migration.

Dick phelan · 10-06-2026 05:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540404#Comment_124540404

Comparing modern Europe to 19th century America is a ridiculous comparison. Also the Irish did not go there under an asylum system which provided them with housing, welfare etc at taxpayers expense

Geuze · 10-06-2026 05:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540260#Comment_124540260

I have a specific question.

How did he get past the passport control in Dublin airport?

He had not claimed asylum at this stage.

Sudanese need a visa to enter RoI.

How was he let in?

eightieschewbaccy · 10-06-2026 05:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540404#Comment_124540404

Fleeing genocide but apparently the solution is just to resolve the issues of ethnic cleansing, genocide etc. It's an impressively stupid perspective.

Geuze · 10-06-2026 05:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540226#Comment_124540226

Well yes, obviously, the criminal is responsible for the crime.

But the people who allowed the criminal to live in the country are also culpable.

Jack Daw · 10-06-2026 05:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540126#Comment_124540126

Oh christ alright another person who decides to ignore what has been the main argument of people that too many people are being given asylum on the first place and that the vetting procedures for it are non existent.

Countries should be able to pick and choose who they open their doors too.

A Dub in Glasgo · 10-06-2026 05:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540419#Comment_124540419

They can if they remove themselves from international law and treaties. In Ireland’s case, that would mean leaving the EU so that Ireland can leave the 1951 Refugee convention.

The vetting procedures are a management responsibility

A Dub in Glasgo · 10-06-2026 05:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540361#Comment_124540361

That link also states that the foreign born population is predominantly from the UK

walshb · 10-06-2026 05:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540404#Comment_124540404

Why do you insist on this lame comparison/angle to Irish people who emigrated nearly 200 years ago? It's just plain silly.

A Dub in Glasgo · 10-06-2026 05:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540415#Comment_124540415

Why are you asking this again on this forum? Nobody knows the exact answer so all you can get are possibilities. I have already gave a possibility that he claimed asylum in Ireland when he arrived in Ireland.

ancapailldorcha · 10-06-2026 05:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540414#Comment_124540414

This just sounds like double standards to me.

aidanodr · 10-06-2026 05:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540468#Comment_124540468

@A Dub in Glasgo I have already gave a possibility that he claimed asylum in Ireland when he arrived in Ireland.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdejnjdg08eo

The Home Office said the attacker was on leave to remain in the UK until 2028. He entered the UK in 2023 and was granted refugee status the same year.

"The individual claims to have entered the UK via the Common Travel Area", a spokesperson said.

The chief constable Jon Boutcher said he understood the suspect made his way from Sudan to Paris before flying to Dublin, and then travelling by bus to Belfast on 10 February 2023 - the date on which he claimed asylum.

He claimed asylum in the UK .. Belfast, it seems.

El Gato De Negocios · 10-06-2026 05:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540165#Comment_124540165

The undisputed king of grandstanding calling anyone performative is utterly hilarious 😂😃😄😁🤣

A Dub in Glasgo · 10-06-2026 05:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540491#Comment_124540491

Yes, you can change your asylum country. So, to me, it is more likely that he arrived in Dublin and told the immigration officers that he wanted to claim asylum. At a certain point, he decided to travel to Belfast and claim asylum in the UK. He was processed in the UK and granted asylum on a five year basis (leave to remain).

maccored · 10-06-2026 05:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540419#Comment_124540419

he was a legal migrant - terrible crime and I hope he gets locked up a long time for it - but he was a legal migrant all the same. the brits gave him rights until 2028. Thats what your 'main argument' has been - 'illiegal immigrants' coming here and taking your jobs etc etc. then off ye's go and hang out with loyalists - christ sake, stop making excuses.

eightieschewbaccy · 10-06-2026 05:59PM

Sdlp member on Matt Cooper said the riots amounted to a pogroms. He had to move an Asian family in the middle of the night(think it might have been more than one family but one had their apartment burnt down). Made a good point that they've got serious knife crime issues and they rank number 1 for femicide in Europe but none of these issues warrant rioting apparently. I'm sure a few posters will be outraged by him saying the above though.

maccored · 10-06-2026 06:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540361#Comment_124540361

12% according to the 2022 census stats. stop making up stuff.

maccored · 10-06-2026 06:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540554#Comment_124540554

only ones who'd be dissapoointed there would be the ones who'd be willing to go up and hang out with the loyalists.

Seth Brundle · 10-06-2026 06:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540418#Comment_124540418

Was he a criminal when he was granted asylum or are you just assuming he was a criminal (maybe because he was black)?

Field east · 10-06-2026 06:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124538252#Comment_124538252

from the rioters perspective it is apparently ok to burn down houses , to light bonfires in the middle of a street, to put children’s lives at risk, etc, etc. and all of this to show their displeasure at what happened .

Does this mean that if a ‘white’ Belfast man tried to murder , with a knife, a ‘black’ man from Honduras on Main Street in Belfast and the Hondurans and other coloured people in Belfast went on a similar riot that the current rioters would be OK with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MrMusician18 · 10-06-2026 06:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540584#Comment_124540584

It's not to simply show their displeasure. It's an act of intimidation against outsiders. That's the main goal - if it's possible for mobs to have goals.

The net effect of the riots is that migrants will be less likely to move to Northern ireland, Belfast and East/loyalist areas.

gmisk · 10-06-2026 06:20PM

Dog kicker and crèche creeper Philip Dwyer not being made to feel too welcome in Belfast...you love to see it.

https://twitter.com/i/status/2064458361295278134

standardg60 · 10-06-2026 06:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540491#Comment_124540491

How is someone from Sudan going to be aware of the CTA? That sounds like nonsense to me, he could have arrived in NI in the back of a trailer for all we know.

Apart from that, the mention by a 'spokesperson' of the CTA, which has been jumped on by the likes of McAllister amongst others as needing to be addressed, is a complete misnomer. The CTA predated and existed throughout the Troubles. It was the Troubles that gave rise to border checkpoints, and it was the GFA that removed them.

Withdrawing from the CTA would place another border in the Irish Sea, not on the island as that would breach the GFA.

InAtFullBack · 10-06-2026 06:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540260#Comment_124540260

I am hearing on likes of LBC that this is going to become a very live issue which might see the end of or huge curtailing of the CTA?
They are now questioning was there some sort of failure on that day in 2023 when this guy crossed by bus into NI

Another thing to add to the list that the lefties have made an absolute haymes of. We won't be able travel across the Irish sea or the NI/ROI border freely now thanks to their incompetence.

Slow clap lads, slow clap.

Seth Brundle · 10-06-2026 06:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540685#Comment_124540685

the lefties

🙄

GiftofGab · 10-06-2026 07:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540398#Comment_124540398

I 100% agree that discussions need to be had on asylum seekers.

But just on your point about not offering any benefit to us. I work in financial services and I previously worked with an asylum seeker from the Congo. He came over here when he was about 5 with his mum. He grew up with all Irish friends, played GAA and football, went to DCU and married an Irish girl. He now has a family andna really good job in finance. He was also the happiest person I'd ever known and seriously good craic. To say they don't offer anything is a bit much.

Belfast Far Right Riots 2026 [Mod Note in OP]

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