Belfast Far Right Riots 2026 [Mod Note in OP]

Hilarious given the Punch cartoons depicting us as weak-minded simpletons and animals, the attitude of WASPs in the US in the 19th & 20th Centuries. We (Irish) had literal "no-go" areas in Hell's Kitchen and the Five Points at the turn of the century. The Dillingham Commission (US Congressional Joint Immigration Commission) of 1911 is available to read online. Have a look at what they were saying about Irish immigrants.

p.s. Wait till these rioters find out about The Shankill Butchers!

I haven't claimed that Irish people were not discriminated against on their travels. I am aware that they have been

I said that I don't believe that Irish communities in countries elsewhere (developed over centuries) is the same or similar to a very recent infux of African communities in Ireland. To me these two scenarios/situations are not the same, or even close to being the same.

This argument is commonly put forward to 'shame' the UK into housing formerly colonised people who generally despise it.

It works on the brainwashed, but it has the exact opposite effect on everyone else.

If I were in the UK the only feeling it would arouse in me is a renewed desire to keep those people as far away from my shores as possible, and by any means necessary.

What's the difference then?

As far back as 2005, 90% of AS claims were bogus:

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2006-07-05/401/

The State's asylum strategy is based on a number of key principles:

—meeting our obligations under international law such as the 1951 Geneva Convention and, of course, under national law relating asylum;

—dealing fairly but efficiently with the large number of unfounded asylum claims which are being received which represent some 90% of the total number of asylum applications being processed annually;

—ensuring that persons who are found, after a fair and efficient determination process, not to need protection are returned to their countries of origin as quickly as this can be arranged;

—implementing the provisions of the Dublin II Regulation to ensure that asylum applicants who lodged asylum claims in more than one jurisdiction, are returned to the State where they first claimed asylum; and

—ensuring that we have robust systems in place to root out and prevent abuse in our protection system by persons who are entering the State for purposes other than seeking protection from persecution.

Despite the comprehensive nature and fairness of our independent asylum process, involving a determination at first instance and appeal by two independent agencies and access to comprehensive legal advice and interpretation services, some 90% of applicants for asylum are found not to be in need of refugee status. Many of these applicants could, as was pointed out by the Secretary General, be classed as economic migrants who are choosing to use the asylum process to gain a foothold in the State for reasons other than protection needs, rather than utilising the comprehensive framework we have in place to legitimately gain entry for economic and work purposes.

It is quite possible that he claimed asylum in Ireland when he arrived in Dublin and changed it to the UK later

It is quite possible that he claimed asylum in Ireland when he arrived in Dublin and changed it to the UK later

If that had happened, surely we would have heard about it already.

So what did all of those people whos doors were kicked and houses were burned down do to deserve this?

Or do you think they deserved it because they're foreign?

You can blather on all you want. What happened last night is the fault of filthy, scummy, knuckle-dragging, drugged up racists, and you're only looking to deflect from that point. Why? Is it because you secretly think this is what should be done?

Even the family of the victim of Monday night's attack wants nothing to do with this.

I'm glad you're awake and not a victim of brainwashing.
Your comprehension does seem a tad odd though
You're claiming I've made an argument?
Point out where I did that, I just recounted a little history and the social and indeed even economic links that endure post empire.
Not an argument, but if you think it's an effort to "shame" anyone?
That's both a deliberate ignorance of the historical ties and an odd bit of thinking as to the purpose of trying to understand the push/pull factors of migration.
Why would you, or anyone be ashamed of historical facts and ties?

Would you propose that nobody makes any effort to understand the "why" of anything?
That is a very lonely rock to hide under.
One that only leads to ever growing anger and resentment.

So much waffle not answering the question , all correct (fair play). But tell me how 100% are bogus?

1.7M people over 2 decades to a largely empty continent sized country, where arrivals had zero rights to welfare, health, housing, education etc etc etc

Not comparable whatsoever to what’s happening today

“Shur the Irish went abroad during the famine” is honestly the most disingenuous, dumb argument and false equivalence and I continue to be utterly mystified at how often it’s trotted out

They're planning a 'protest' in Dublin city this afternoon, so you might want to avoid there if you've any sense.

I condemn all rioting and violence.

Somebody suggested a peaceful protest outside the civil service office that grants leave-to-remain to bogus asylum-seekers. I would support that peaceful protest.

You say that as if the population of America is spread out evenly over the whole continant - it's not. I'm sure Irish people traveling over there during the famine were a huge strain on population centres.