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Belfast Far Right Riots 2026 [Mod Note in OP]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    100% agree …… these are disgusting individuals with nothing to offer …… bloody Tommy Robinson gets in on the act and when he is on your side in a protest then you know you are not on the good side ….. it is terrorism ….. people's houses burnt and cars and buses …… those responsible should spend the rest of their days in prison ….. and that includes Tommy Robinson …… why is he allowed to exist ???? ……

    100% …… and they target any house that comes their way ….. a gang of criminals is all they are ….. burglars, racists, looters, and terrorists all intermingle and create chaos ……

    The guy responsible for the knife attack needs to and will go to prison for a long time …… those burning down people's houses deserve to go there for even longer …… all their lives actually ….. this carry on should not be tolerated at all ….. and the organisers and eggers on the same esp that Tommy Robinson …….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,148 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Given the fact that the homes of immigrants are being burnt down, I think it's pretty reasonable to ask the affected communities about how they're feeling. Attacking an entire community is a pretty warped response and actually makes Belfast seem far more inhospitable to anyone.

    I'd suspect the genocide in Darfur would be a pretty big reason for such a population.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Why would you burn anything down when you're the ones in charge?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,055 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    No, I don't…..because for centuries Irish people have left Ireland and moved everywhere to make lives for themselves….and fully enriched areas where they have went. Built, enriched, developed etc…

    It's kinda' silly you'd try to imply both thoughts here are the same/similar….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Well just 'de left' are the ones who are allegedly the violent, intolerant ones.

    When was the last time 'de left' caused a riot?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,681 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    You must have lived a sheltered life if you think there are no 'foreign' communities in any town or city across the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,436 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Historically, Sudan was part of the British Empire.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,337 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Of course we did.
    And sure those places we went to?
    Never ghettoised, demeaned or exploited us.
    We never commited crimes either.
    We Irish, truly were and are the model for all immigrants.
    They should all try to be like us.
    Any backlash against entire communities for the actions of a member of said community?
    Is of course entirely fair and rational, because using the Irish diaspora as an example?
    Means that if those Sudanese and A.N Others didn't integrate as perfectly as we did?
    They deserve what they get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,148 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Are you okay with burning out the homes of immigrants? Cause that's what's happening and you're complaining that those affected have been interviewed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,919 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Holy shamrock shaped rose tinted glasses there. I heard a fiddle play out towards the end of the first paragraph in that post.

    A lot of Australians really do not like Irish people over there, nor want to continue a huge influx of more Irish people there.

    I suppose the 'no dogs, blacks or Irish' signs were make believe too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,436 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    So it's fine for white people but not for people from Africa or Asia.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭almostover


    The system is the issue. He did not have a valid asylum claim but was permitted to stay for 5 years under a 'Leave to Remain' judgement. Essentially you're not getting asylum status but you can stay for 5 years. How that is a valid option in processing asylum claims is beyond me.

    Essentially the attacker was allowed to stay in the UK despite not having a valid asylum claim. Typically this is used when return to the country of origin would be deemed unsafe. In this case the only unsafe decision was allowing him to remain in the UK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,928 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    @walshb Have you ever peacefully protested against immigration yourself?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,337 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    By Jove old chap, I cannot believe that some of the oiks here are unaware of just how pink Sudan was and what of poor old Gordon of Khartoum?
    Did he defeat the Mahdi for nought🤷

    16383.jpg 16384.jpg

    The children of Empire, of nations exploited but whose past were shaped by Britain now washing up on her shores?
    Well, the collapse of Empire has consequences.
    Especially when the "Mother Country" was perceived by the colonised as a place where life is good, fortunes can be made and where success can be achieved.

    The attachment of east Africa and South Asia to the UK can still be seen in the accents of the well off in nations such as Kenya, Pakistan, India and so on.
    Along with the penchant amongst the wealthy there for sending their kids to UK boarding schools.

    We may have dropped received pronunciation here but then again, we are 40-50yra ahead in our own independence journey and the links that stayed in place from 47 for the sub-continent and from the 50s & 60s for much of Africa.
    Those nations see longstanding connection with UK in a way that Ireland no longer does, despite our proximity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,681 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    That is not true, he was granted asylum for 5 years (leave to remain), near the end of the 5 years he could apply for indefinite leave to remain (settled status). He was not granted refugee status but was granted temporary asylum.

    I note this level of disinformation is rife



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,928 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The angry mob were attacking emergency workers. Lowest of the low.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,270 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    This Sudanese man flew into Paris and then into Dublin.

    If he was genuine, why didn't he claim asylum in the dozens of countries between Sudan and NI?

    Why not claim in France?

    Why don't the people in Calais claim asylum in France, rather than taking boats to England?

    Answer: they are not genuine, they are economic migrants shopping around, and they know Ireland and UK are soft.

    This is our fault.

    We attract them by being soft. Roderic O'Gorman and Catherine Day promised own-door accomm for AS within four months of arrival. What did we expect would happen as a result?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    Jesus christ talk about not answering a question. How could 100% be bogus?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,055 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Irish or English or French or Spanish or German or Danish or Dutch (Europeans) emigrating all over the world for years and years is not remotely similar or comparable to a recent Sudanese influx to a small European island on the western edge Europe.

    And I think people absolutely know how very different these scenarios are, but obtusely ignore them to try prove a point!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,270 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    The Lib Dems in the UK and the Soc Dems here have blamed social media:

    Lib Dems call for crack down on social media platforms 'fuelling hatred'

    The UK government must "crack down" on social media platforms like X that are "fuelling violence and hatred," Liberal Democrats leader Ed Davey has said.

    "Too many times we see the same pattern, an appalling crime that makes us all feel immense pain and anger, and then extremists who exploit that grief and anger to spread hatred and violence, aided and abetted by social media barons like Elon Musk and their divisive algorithms.

    "Will [Prime Minister Keir Starmer] crack down properly on platforms like X that are fuelling violence and hatred?"

    "We will crack down on anyone who is fuelling this division," Mr Starmer said.

    My main issue with this is as follows.

    Why don't the LibDems call for a crack down on the inflow of bogus asylum-seekers?

    They ignore the elephant in the room, and try to distract us from the main issue, by blaming social media.

    They refuse to address the main issue: the inflow of bogus asylum-seekers.

    Why? the truth is that they want the inflow to continue and grow, but they aren't honest enough to admit that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Just concerned citizens angry at something a brown person did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,681 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    You do not have to apply for asylum in the first country you enter, the man legally applied for asylum in the UK. I know you want to rip up the relevant international law on that but your premise that because person x did not apply for asylum in the first country now they are bogus in seeking asylum is wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭almostover


    Fair correction, I got that wrong.

    I would still be of the opinion that the immirgation system failed badly in this case. This man passed through 2 safe countries on this way to the UK (France and ROI). Why did he not claim asylum in either of those countries? And how is the system setup such that people are migrating to a country of choice to claim asylum and therefore not claiming it in the first safe country they arrive in?

    The system is clearly being abused, cases like this are occurring and it's damaging the social cohesion of the host countries. Not to mind the horror inflicted on his victim.

    The system is being gamed and it needs to be tightened up. If it was, the like of Reform wouldn't even exist. Their existence is a reaction to a broken system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭Arseboxing


    Why shouldn't there be a Sudanese community in Belfast?

    Do you ask why is there an Irish community in Sydney? I bet you don't?

    Do you ask why Australia is majority white European? I bet you don't?

    Of course a night when fascist mobs burned people out of their homes and burned cars and buses, the real offender is…the Guardian.

    Lolz.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,681 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Again, the attacker on Monday night was granted asylum in the UK therefore he was not a bogus asylum seeker. I know you already know this because it has been pointed out to you on previous occasions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,270 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    80% of the claims are bogus, according to the Taoiseach, see news report below.

    All of the following are bogus: Americans, Albanians, Georgians, Nigerians, South Africans, for a start.

    Ask yourself a question: have 80% of the 165,000 arrivals been removed? The answer is no.

    If so, 132,000 people would have been removed. That has not happened.

    The costs on the taxpayers are huge.

    Shortly after Tánaiste Simon Harris said the number of asylum seekers coming to Ireland was too high, Taoiseach Micheál Martin has admitted that up to 80% of IPAS applicants in Ireland are actually economic migrants who are not genuine asylum seekers.

    He also told false asylum seekers “don’t bother coming” to Ireland, as your claim will be rejected upon arrival.

    The Taoiseach was speaking after this week Tánaiste Simon Harris said that the number of asylum seekers coming to Ireland is “too high”. Harris also urged detaining migrants who fail to comply with deportation orders, and said he was “open-minded” on whether the State should have exit checks to ensure that deportation order recipients leave the State.

    Asked about this hardening of immigration stance on RTÉ Radio 1, Martin backed up the remarks by Harris, saying that between 70% to 80% of IPAS applicants are refused asylum on first appeal stage.

    “That’s significant, because it really points to that what you’re looking at here is economic migration primarily,” the Taoiseach said.

    He also discouraged people from coming to Ireland if they “know deep down” that they’re just going to have their applications refused in the end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭Arseboxing


    They're blaming social media because social media is to blame. Vast fascist propaganda campaigns carried by a client corporate social media is the centrepiece of a vast worldwide fascist conspiracy led by and organised by the richest and worst people on earth - Musk, Trump, Putin, Netanyahu, and associated fascist media both traditional and social.

    This forum itself is at the centre of a concerted organised flooding campaign by far right interests in Ireland and abroad. Pretty much all forums are.

    The only reason you'd argue for unfettered fascist control of social media is because you support unfettered fascist control in general.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,270 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Okay, we will stick with the confirmation from the Taoiseach that 80% are bogus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    social media is to blame for having a video of a nutjob trying to cut some ones head off ? maybe don't try and cut someones head off and their is no video ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Those security guards could not know in advance that Yves is allegedly drug addicted alcoholic with frail health. Perhaps he should have been more careful and choose different path to make money than allegedly shoplifting.

    Perhaps future alleged shoplifters should advertise their medical conditions in advance when they go out allegedly shoplifting.

    Lynching… 🤣



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