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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    This 100%. He was in a no-win situation of his own making.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭jj880


    Michelle O'Neill statement on attempted beheading:

    https://x.com/moneillsf/status/2064274032690659636

    Michelle O'Neill statement on Belfast last night:

    https://x.com/moneillsf/status/2064460443738091666

    Not surprising which is the more strongly worded statement mentioning racism. She's not reading the room very well.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,711 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    The "it's Ireland/EUs" fault. Let's be honest it is a two way street and a very open one plenty of immigrants likely arriving in NI then shifting across the non existent border to the south as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    This sums up the problem. Tone deaf politicians.

    Move a few boat loads of these lads onto their street and see if they change their tune.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Migdal_Or


    I think social media is a nuisance in lots of ways, but we're reaching the point where we'd be royally screwed without it. If we were relying on the mainstream media for coverage of this, all we'd know is that someone was stabbed in Belfast and that rioters, predominantly loyalists, were out last night rioting in response.

    I watched Ireland AM this morning for a few minutes, and aside from Tommy, who called the incident out for its barbaric nature, the focus was on the rioting.

    As for Gibney, censorship is most definitely high on her list of priorities. People often ask why FFG keep getting re-elected, and you need look no further than Gibney for the answer. Can you imagine what an SF/SD/PBP government, with people like her in ministerial positions, would be like?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭Resplendent Moose


    A personal invitation to dance, as Nero plays for the last time
    Tonight you will mix with the prophets without honour...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    It is a lie. He's saying specifically he wouldn't have heard about it if it wasn't for Twitter. I don't give have a care in the world about 1 news talk report. There is tons of articles since yesterday from domestic NI news, UK news and Irish news with full details.

    Nothing to do with Twitter. So yes it's fabricated nonsense to pretend Twitter is some bastion of free information.

    A tiny google search would have gotten him the same information. Easily !

    Lie



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Did you even read what I said.

    How can IPAS/Roma folk who remain here long term, living off the state provided a more positive fiscal contribution? It's not viable.

    How can people who never work, but get all the benefits make a more positive fiscal contribution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭actuallylike


    Just.... unbelievable

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    To be clear, has been said over and over and over again. Most don't have issues with people coming over on visas, getting stuck into work.

    The issue is with group that the study conveniently leaves out. I'm shocked that the Department of Justice, Home Affairs and Migration would omit data that would show migration in a bad light.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    That's a lie. And I've said why it's a lie. You can't counter it with fluff a out selected outlets not having your satisfactory information. If you wanted to you could find acres of news sources with the details of the crime.

    But you don't want to, you prefer raging about being oppressed and not seeing 'the real world' or some other fluffy nonsense.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Im.surprised the second half of that headline didn't say "as Starmer sends 1000 Asylum seekers to belfast"

    Its amazing what is, and is not tolerated.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    So the accused in Belfast is also charged with threatening to kill a radiographer, was this after he was taken to hospital foe treatment.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Lofidelity


    On the rare occasions that a survey has asked the question, 70-80% of people have said there should be stricter controls on immigration. Thats the majority of ordinary people, your family, friends, work colleagues. But many on the left, the media and politicians refuse to accept this fact. They say its all whipped up by some fringe characters on the far right, usually overseas, and operating on social media. The suggestion is always that those who are concerned about immigration are stupid or gullible. 70-80% of the general population are not following shadowy extremist characters online. They are seeing how the country is changing and coming up their own conclusion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    so if social media didn't exist how do you think this would be reported then ? a knife attack or someone trying to decapitate another person ? I think I know the answer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Ah right yes the foremost media outlets in the country as I highlighted didn’t give the full story, me pointing this out is a lie somehow?

    Where have I said I’m oppressed? Oh right I haven’t, that’s another thing you’ve made up. WTF are you on about, you’re just foaming at the mouth talking nonsense - I won’t be wasting any time on hysterical liars, you can return to talking to yourself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Marcos


    "Thankfully minister O'Callaghan seems to be one of the very few politicians not afraid to take action and begin to reform what is a badly broken system."

    I take issue with this sentence, a few press releases and two deportation flights of EU criminals does not mean taking action to reform this shitshow. Now if he were to declare an emergency, deport more and quickly. Cut off the social welfare payments for those who have been issued deportation orders, suspend their bank accounts, stop them getting leave to remain and their family reunification. That would be a start. But I'm not holding my breath.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    I often take public transport and you definitely notice the non Irish demographic there. I was on a local bus a few weeks back where I’d say I was the only Irish person on the bus. Most were Ukrainian or Eastern European as they were all conversing in their own language, even the driver was as well. It honestly felt like being abroad! I’m not anti foreigner and many of these people are contributing to society and we have a lot of Ukrainian centres in the area too so that explains much of it.

    More recently I spent a bit of time on the LUAS and, again, loads of non Irish. Again, I have no problem with this as I’m sure most are either tourists or working for multinationals and good luck to them. My main thought though was they with everybody conversing away in their native languages it makes it easy for a ne’er do well to get amongst them. Back in the day you’d spot the dodgy types when it was predominantly Irish people on services. You’d understand what they were saying and could exercise a bit of smarts and act appropriately. It just felt that now rather than being able to spot the trouble you are relying on the fact that the majority of people are a good and decent but just hoping that there wasn’t some sort of nut job in there with them because the entire item system system is just such an absolute shambles

    Once you sit down and think about it for any length of time you realise that Bertie was right. I’m no fan of Bertie by any means and I think the should’ve been in prison long ago but it’s hard to disagree with a guy that knows what he’s talking about and isn’t afraid to say what he thinks.

    incidentally in that whole incident a lot of criticism fell on Bertie rightly or wrongly, there was no criticism whatsoever of the stupid woman who decided she would illegally record what he was saying. If you or I recorded a conversation without the knowledge of another we would be instantly faced with all kinds of charges. This one gets off scot-free because her motive supports the required opinion.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Jim O’Callaghan is more concerned about his own image, that of being a tough man who is hard on crime apparently. In the end though it’s all show and he’s just the typical idiot we have in office these days, talking a big game and doing a few show tricks for the cameras but is ultimately just a useless plank letting things happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Marcos


    I don't know why you think it would be. He doesn't care a jot for Irish people, never has, never will.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    The SDs are a dangerous bunch,at least you know what you get with PBP but the SDs are much more insidious,should be called the " Real PBP".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭kabakuyu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,936 ✭✭✭enricoh


    So the Esri left out asylum seekers of the data. The group with the worst cost/benefit were left out -why? Were they told to exclude them?

    Happily so, as then the Irish times wouldn't have their headline. (Always check the small print folks!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,860 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,305 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    More or less a threat of ongoing violence https://www.thejournal.ie/common-travel-area-ireland-northern-ireland-uk-belfast-7065965-Jun2026/

    DUP MP Carla Lockhart called for the British government to review the land border between RoI and NI, which allows for the free movement of people under CTA. “That’s where this problem lies, and unless the Government step up, I fear we will continue to see significant unrest within our communities.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭Photobox




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    The epic fail of posting what is clearly a damage control article that deliberately ignores the very thing that everybody has issue with is pretty hilarious. Remember, all immigration is exactly the same and is a positive for everybody! If you don't want thousands of people (mostly men) arriving to live off the tax payer for life by gaming the asylum system, you hate the doctors and everybody else that is working and contributing because you are a white supremacist.

    And still we drag on with the same tired garbage rather than addressing the actual concerns that people have. And then you wonder why you are seeing the rise of more extreme elements in response.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Slim and none,and I heard Slim just left town.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Marcos


    OK now who funded this study? Oh yes, the Department of Justice who are under pressure about the criminally broken immigration system. So of course they're going to try and deflect anything that looks bad for them. As for the ESRI, they seem to have moved on from a purely economic review source since the 60's and seems to have morphed into a more activist role in the last year or so. They now say their role is to "promote social progress" and to bring about "behavioural change."

    A highly curated study, funded by the Department of Justice conducted by an organisation who state that they want to manage misconceptions. Yeah, of course it's going to be totally above board and not massaged in any way. It's basically a PR campaign to tell the public not to believe what they see with their own eyes. And it is being spun to tell us that there's nothing to see here.

    But if you read the report, when referring to unemployment and sickness payments it says.

    "In 2024, 56% of the Irish born recieved at least one of these payments compared to 61% of migrants."

    Now think about that, isn't 61% bigger than 56%? It's almost as if they're not comparing like with like.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    I presume it's afterwards, there is mention of him getting treatment for damage to his hand after the attack in one new source (can't remember which).

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


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