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General British politics discussion thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    There's been a split in Your Party. We now have a Socialist Federation:

    A group of members have split from Your Party, citing frustration with Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership and accusing the party of having “squandered the enormous promise of 800,000 signups last summer.”

    On Sunday, 250 people – many of whom are members of Your Party’s branches in England, Scotland and Wales – joined a Zoom call and voted to found a new left-wing party, called Socialist Federation.

    In an opening statement shared on X, the new group said its members had “lost patience” with Your Party and Corbyn, and accused the party of showing “only contempt” for its grassroots supporters. It continued: “Socialist Federation is an interim organisation with a longer-term goal. We want to rally forces to form something neither Labour nor the Greens can claim to be: a party with unwavering socialist principles, that actively builds working class power in communities and workplaces.”

    https://smry.ai/https%3A/www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2026/06/your-party-faction-splits-to-form-new-party

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,986 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    You'd have to hope that Farage's response, coupled with the violence last night, might turn off some potential Reform voters.

    Whilst it might appeal to the under 40s "football hooligan" types that seem to make up a chunk of Reform's younger support, it's hard to see it appealing to the older "pining for the glory days" types who would see law and order, and deference to police, as a key virtue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    There's nothing powerful about Badenoch. She's clearly a placeholder for the next leader. The closest thing she has to ideas are the same MAGA tropes parroted by the likes of Farage. She's pandering to a demographic who would like to see her sent to Nigeria.

    Tommy Ten Names has also appeared to milk Mr. Nowak's death for all its worth. There were some nasty scenes in Southampton as Yaxley-Lennon was doing his grift. I'm not remotely surprised that the racists are using this to push their nonsense.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭midlander12


    You'd have to hope, yes. We'll see. Every day I keep thinking 'this time he's finally gone too far'. Yet the show goes on, and while his support may have peaked, it has done at a very high level is a FPTP system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,004 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Shelagh Fogarty always gets destroyed by people such as this commentator which is great to see.

    she used to be decent but she has sold her soul to the genocidal racist apartheid colonial state, and dispite being humiliated every time by callers and guests calling the state out, continues to be the biggest israel shill and degrade herself for the genocidal racist apartheid state as does the presenter who comes after her among others on that station.

    she often has the agitator gidian falter on her program as well as the UKLFI headbangers and up until recently at least, the conspyra loon david mensa.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,004 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    actually they do, they allow farage to do it on a daily basis and even engage in it themselves.

    no, they aren't bothered about actual people sturring actual trouble, but they are bothered about people speaking the truth about a state who's actions they support and agree with.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The sort of people who attend Yaxley-Lennon rallies will overwhelmingly be pro-Reform or pro-Restore/Advance/whatever. 30% of the electorate wouldn't fit into that demographic though. Reform's issue is that it can't expand beyond that demographic and it really, really needs to.

    The little c*nt said that we can't tar all police officers with the same brush when one of them raped and murdered Sarah Everard but it's apparently grand to do the same with Sikhs.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,273 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    I'm just worried about all the hospitals, doctors' surgeries and schools that must have had to close in the Southampton area. What with all the doctors and teachers that were on the protest, no?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Plus the whole 'two-tier policing' bullcrap is arguably indeed tarring all police with the same brush.

    To be frank, what the Tories have been saying isn't much better, maybe a little less blatant.

    I think the police's real 'crime' was their firm treatment of the far-right riots in 2024 after the Southport murders. They probably thought they'd actually get the 'softly-softly' treatment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    You might be onto something there. They seem to be obsessed with Lucy Connolly, a woman who openly called for a pogrom.

    The Tories are screwed which is glorious. They've abandoned the centre to play culture war games. It worked for Johnson but that was seven years ago. Now they have nothing. Labour and the Liberals have moved to the centre and the right is Farage's fief now.

    Incidentally, the little grifting parasite has missed 77 out of the last 77 Parliamentary votes.

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/06/01/nigel-farage-says-missed-past-77-votes-parliament-busy-28601111/

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Yes and he was so concerned about the Novak case that he couldn't be there yesterday either. Filmed his 'call to rage' in a field somewhere and refused to answer any questions afterwards lest his £5 million and the mythical 'Russian hackers' were raised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Randycove


    Boards needs to come up with a bat **** emoji.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Latest poll on Makerfield:- Lab 49%, Ref 39%, Restore 8%, Oths 1-2%.

    Basically any LD and Green voters are voting tactically for Burnham.

    X



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,728 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Interesting strategy moves this week.

    Wes Streeting saying what was happening in Gaza were war crimes, and Andy Burnham saying Gaza is too far from Manchester to be able see enough to form an opinion on what is happening there.

    I wonder will moving to London, 160 miles closer, being the conflict in to clearer vision for him.

    Bold move for a man effectively applying to be Prime Minister, to be pleading ignorance on the most prominent global conversation of the last 2 5 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,958 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It's a cop out for sure, but an understandable cop out from Burnham. He knows if he says anything even remotely critical about Israel the knives will be out for him from the usual suspects and he can say goodbye to any leadership race before it even begins. Likewise, if he says he's all fine and dandy with the genocidal warfare in Gaza he'll blow it with a lot of people too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,681 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Burnham is a bullshitter with his comment above and has to keep the zionist lobby onside



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,006 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Very disappointing that Burnham won't say a word to criticise the terrorist state - and he is supposed to represent the left wing of the Labour Party. They really are hugely compromised in their relationship with Zionism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I just hope he's not waffling when it comes to supporting PR.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    I think politically there isn't much positive to expect in the UK, and that for a long time to come.

    Opinions in the UK are often too far apart for any kind of consensus on many things.

    The first past the post electoral system doesn't offer any form of compromise on anything, it's mostly one ruling over the other and vice versa, only sparking harsh debates and politics detached from large parts of the public.

    The difference between the haves and have nots is rather big, even though taxes seem higher.

    Considering what even wealthy property owners pay in council taxes on their properties and social issues are still not solved shows how things really are and how they are handled, the reality is often high cost and poor outcome.

    The Tories basically ruined themselves with Brexit, and no real economic plan and no credibility.

    Labour under Starmer has no real courage to do anything that moves the needle.

    Reform UK is full of scandals, shady financial deals, etc…. and so is the SNP in Scotland. Both can be loud-mouthed with no plan and fewer results.

    Scandals here and there, recently with the police, contribute to the feeling the country seems broken.

    Fazit: No political party seems to have capabilities nor solutions on anything.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Some national polls also have Restore on 9% according to TDLR channel on YouTube.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,149 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    9% without solid local candidates means no seats, but will strip Reform of loads of seats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭midlander12


    With any luck, starting with Makerfield. At which stage Farage will be back calling for electoral reform, no doubt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    And probably for Rupert Lowe's head on a spike. Would be the mirror image of Moby's take on the 2000 American presidential election:

    “If Bush wins, I will follow Ralph Nader to the ends of the earth just to scream at him and pelt him with rotten tomatoes. If Nader had withdrawn from the race, then Al Gore would be our president-elect.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,436 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Former US President Barack Obama’s sweary private reaction of horror at Britain’s decision to leave the EU has been disclosed for the first time.

    According to Britain’s former ambassador in the US, Lord Kim Darroch, Obama thought the UK had “f***ed” itself.

    Writing in Sir Anthony Seldon’s book, The Brexit Effect, which is being serialised in the Independent, Lord Darroch, UK envoy in Washington in 2016 when the EU referendum took place, says senior figures in Obama’s government were “horrified” by Brexit.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/barack-obama-brexit-reaction-b2979623.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    He wasn't wrong in fairness. It was gas though how the right here were incandescent at a US President getting involved in British affairs like this before fawning over the orange blight that would follow President Obama.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭midlander12


    And we hear about it in a book ten years later. A reminder of the way things used to be done when 'normal' politics still existed.

    Surely he should have put up a post on Twitter blaming it on migration, or something?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Farage seems determined to double down on his links with the most decrepit Tories of the Brexit era, with both Truss and Rees-Mogg on the bill for this. I suppose he couldn't resist another US-style fash forum.

    Others in attendance will include Matt Goodwin, who lost the Gorton and Denton byelection to a Green plumber, and the noted free speech campaigner Lucy 'burn down hotels with the migrants in them' Connolly.

    Nigel Farage to headline Liz Truss’s UK CPAC event after apparent snub | Nigel Farage | The Guardian



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,273 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Well, if we're looking for things to burn down…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,681 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Are we likely to see Starmer indulge in a Cobra meeting today as the racist mobs systematically attacked non-whites last night?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,290 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Defence Secretary John Healy has just resigned



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