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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    At this stage election denial is the equivalent of 6 7 for weirdo influencers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,481 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭mountain


    I have that book sitting on a shelf, unread, is it a good read?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,586 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Yes. Peculiarly enough the straits are blockaded by both Iran and the U.S, though Iran says their's is for tariff purposes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    But you'd be fine about it if you weren't allowed to go by the Trump regime?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth 8-bit


    If only. Please God. With just a bit of fu**in luck



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,586 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    God forbid anyone thinking that Trump's comments about Great Military and highly sophisticated Apache Helicopters were cynical or sarcastic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,684 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    The cutting of Medicare/aid and other social security payments would on the face of it appear to be a really bad move in the run up to the mid-terms. However I saw a video a couple of days ago about parks and fountains repaired and brought back into service and the comments were pretty much unanimous - 'this is what I want to see my taxes spent on, making the city beautiful, not wasted on handouts for idle people and paying for other people's healthcare. And the homeless have all gone, its been cleaned up, its much better'. 'Trump is a builder, he knows about landscaping, making a place look nice and be a good place to be, he has the right ideas'.

    I realise this is just comments on one video, some of which could have been bots, but it was astonishing how strong the opinions were about using public money to improve amenities and remove homeless people. It was rather depressing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    What’s wrong with spending money on dealing with the homeless?



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Many Americans, especially Trump's base, believe that if you're poor / homeless then it's your fault.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    That may very well be true but not wanting to see the state of what parts of Oakland, San Francisco and LA have become (despite the massive amount of money being spent) is not a bad thing and if it's not addressed by Democrats and treated as a non issue then they are shooting themselves in the foot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,702 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    I assume this is sarcasm 😂 She’s not remotely close to being one of the best young golfers in the world ffs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,441 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    What do you think they should do? Give them food, maybe provide homes? Drug treatment programs?

    They would be lambasted by the right.

    Those people who want the problem dealt with only mean they want the problem removed from their view. They don't want it fixed. Throw them in prison for all they care.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,684 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Agreed, but it wasn't so much the part about improving the look of the city, as contempt for any alternative use of the money to support less well off people. And 'removing' the homeless, like they had been binned. It didn't have to be 'either/or', but they specifically didn't want people to be helped, whereas beautifying parks was praised.

    You look at that nice restored fountain while I put up a cage fighting structure at the White House, build a triumphal arch and install a nice safe gold encrusted bunker ballroom.

    Trump's warmongering, grifting and straight-up stealing money from the country can all be ignored because he improved a few parks. The infrastructure of the rest of the country is falling apart, but Washington DC will be made beautiful. Might as well call it District 1.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,648 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Doesn't benefit the wealthy. It's the same as why they don't have universal healthcare, despite being the wealthiest nation on earth. The entire system is run by billionaires and Israeli blood money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    In the case of California a **** ton of money is spent with no results. I used to work in San Francisco and go into the office once in a while, it’s not the hell hole it’s made out to be but some things you see are just not good enough for a very wealthy state and one that likes to pat itself on the back for being so progressive.
    The worse part of the problem is the combination of homelessness, addiction and mental illness; the approach seems to be one where they treat people with severe mental illness or addiction problems as being able to make decisions for themselves. Combine this with some ridiculous attitudes to petty crime and you have a situation that rightly gets criticized.
    People not wanting their city or state to end up with similar problems should not be mocked.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    One of the issues Trump still leading on.

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    Also the polls show most Americans want the Democrats to move to the Centre on immigration. Only 18% want them to move to the Left on immigration.

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    Video on these polls:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,407 ✭✭✭✭8-10




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭Detritus70


    Homelessness has to be addressed by providing education, healthcare, social welfare, you know, all that crap us woke looney lefties in the EU are doing. Like building an actual, functioning first world country.

    In the US, they just make homelessness illegal and brush it under the carpet. And whatever money they're throwing at it doesn't seem to be a well thought out scheme if it's not helping. Either just something lazy and half-assed or it's percolating down into some offshore accounts.

    Reminds me of the US military, just stomp in with your size 13s, lay everything to waste and fcuk off again without actually doing anything useful and leaving the place worse than before. The US has far too much money and they're just throwing it on to a giant bonfire of absolut brainless flailing around. We're seeing the demise of a once, if not great then at least alright country.

    Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭Maxface


    It wouldn't take much a move for the Democrats to satisfy the vast, vast majority of voters on immigration. I think the Western world is moving that direction anyway. I believe that solid, rules based immigration policy that benefits the host country, has some compassion for severe events like Ukraine, alongside supports for citizens in areas of housing etc, it would take that power from those right wing extremists. The like of Farage, Trump et al would be, hopefully be, in the rear view mirror.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭Maxface


    I will say this though, we are living through unprecedented times. We may well be witnessing the beginning of the end of American dominance as the world's sole superpower. In decades to come, children could be learning about this period in history books. "Chapter 11: The Decline of American Superpower Dominance."

    I always enjoyed history at school. We learned about events through chapters in a book. World War I, World War II, The Great Famine and countless other moments that shaped the world. The strange thing is that we are now living through one of those chapters ourselves, even if many people, particularly those driving events, may never have the self awareness to recognise it.

    You do not untangle yourself from a behemoth like the United States in a matter of months or even years. The shift began during Trump's first term. Biden's presidency slowed the process but did not reverse it. Trump's second term has accelerated it once again.

    I recently saw an incredible car built in China. It looked like a Rolls Royce, had a range of almost 950 kilometres and cost around $30,000. That is power. China is producing vehicles at a scale and speed that would have seemed unimaginable not long ago. They are building highly autonomous cars, rolling off production lines every minute, built mostly by robots.

    The European Union also has enormous potential that it is only beginning to realise. It is developing its own payment systems, investing in data infrastructure and slowly reducing dependencies that once seemed permanent. If those efforts continue, the dominance of the United States becomes less important with every passing year. The Euro also has the potential to play a much larger role internationally rather than so much global trade being tied to the dollar.

    The UK, in my view, should find its way back towards closer cooperation with Europe to take advantage of that future. Whether that happens remains to be seen, in a post Farage world for sure.

    What concerns me most is what comes after. If the United States wakes up in twenty years and finds a world of new partnerships, less reliance on American institutions, fewer invitations to key meetings and a weaker dollar, what does it have left to offer? America will always remain influential, but influence is not the same thing as dominance.

    Even Hollywood may struggle. For decades it sold stories where America was the hero that arrived to save the day. Today, those stories feel further from reality than they have at any point in my lifetime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Has homelessness in Ireland got better or worse in recent years?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Depends what you class as homelessness, but that's for another thread



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    It may be the beginning but I think its going to take a while for the following reasons.

    • The Dollar is still the dominant reserve currency, at 57%. This is important for soft power like sanctions. This is well down on the 71% in 1999 but still the next highest reserve currency, the Euro, is only at 20%. It peaked around 25-28% before the Eurozone debt crisis around the time of the 2008 crash. Greece lied their way into the Euro by hiding their deficit, and this was only discovered later and even then the situation that was known was bad enough for them to be delayed a few years before being let in.
    • The EU lacks a Capital Markets Union. Recently several big EU economies came together to call for one. I think in Ireland we might be concerned about whether a European capital market would be regulated too much for the laissez-faire model we have used since 1989. But there are advantages too for Irish companies of EU-wide IPO's. We still haven't ratified the EU Patents Court. I think the Government fears a Supreme Court ruling forcing a referendum. Personally I would probably vote yes as Irish patents would then have recognition in 27 countries, upheld by the ECJ. But it would also mean we would have to accept patents awarded by the EU Patents Court, and we might always agree with those things. It also requires trust that an EU Patents Court will be fair to us and not biased towards France and Germany.
    • The US still has a massively larger military industrial industrial complex compared to us. They have 293 battle craft in total including 70-90 nuclear submarines. The UK and France each have about 9 nuclear submarines each and the UK has 7-8 active frigates (Type 23s depending on decommissionings and maintenance status) and France has 15 first rank frigates including FREMM, Horizon-class, La Fayette-class and the new FDI frigates entering service. The US has no frigates or cruisers anymore or they are being decommissioned, but it has 75 destroyers. The UK has 6 destroyers. Officially France has no destroyers but many of its frigates, including an air defence frigate, are as capable as a destroyer. Germany has diesel submarines only and is one of the biggest submarine exporters in the world, including to Israel. But Germany has no frigates. Germany has 11 frigates, including 4 Brandenburg Class, 3 Sachsen Class air defence frigates and 4 Baden-Wurttemberg class frigates.
    • The US navy has 300,000 sailors and another 300,000 civilian staff. The UK, France and Germany have around 33000, 36000 and 17000 respectively.
    • There is still a fair amount of protectionism on services between EU countries, especially on the Far Right and the Far Left. We see that especially with the legal and medical professions. We need to open that up. It might help our health service without driving down pay. The driving down of pay in the health service is the reason Irish doctors are emigrating. I'm not sure I fully agree with the governments policy of driving out private doctors from public hospitals. The private insurers are a source of revenue for public hospitals.

    The US is in the middle of a transition to drone and AI based mine clearance. They lack minesweepers and minehunters following decades of cuts, with obvious affects on the Strait of Hormuz conflict. Thje US has about 8 minesweepers/hunters, compared to 150 in NATO as a whole. I think Poland has about 29, and the UK and France have about 8-9 each. Bulgaria has about 29 too. Trump asked Europe to send minesweepers but keeps stepping on his message with his 'we don't need help' routine. He was too arrogant to ask for help to begin with, and remains too arrogant to admit he needs it.

    Post edited by Ozymandius2011 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭Tazz T




  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Most of the increase in the population is migration, and most of that is work-permits (other than the Ukrainian refugee crisis, a large percentage of which has left). I think we need to return to a more oldschool definition of a refugee as someone actually fleeing danger, rather than just potential danger.

    Also, where there is a danger, but it later passes, there should be a mechanism to revoke asylum if the reason it was granted is no longer current.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,586 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    As administration policy goes, this time about war with Iran, Trump's latest flip-flop is extraordinary from "it's only a copter, the pilots are safe" to "it's necessary to attack Iran" in only a matter of hours.

    Who exactly is in control of the U.S military and foreign policies from the Oval Office - is it the elected 47th President of the U.S or is it an unelected person in the White House [a member of his cabinet or one of his White House advisors]?

    When are the citizens of the U.S going to wake up and, like the rest of the world have been for months, look at the bigger picture and insist Trump get's a new set of advisors?

    It might be simply Trump does NOT and never had the competence or staying power to confront and put to sleep the instabilities the U.S President is supposed to, even with all the help the tripartite U.S system of Govt are supposed to provide the U.S with. There's a fire raging in the middle east and all Trump's crew can do is escalate it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,186 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Ireland could really improve in that regard. We're slipping into that whole "hostility to the homeless" mindset that seems to have taken hold in the States. A roof over your head should be a fundamental right. Unfortunately, even people on reasonable incomes can't afford to live in anything bigger than a shoebox, so it's not going to happen until there's a serious increase in the housing supply. Maybe the state could put some of that rainy day fund into keeping builders employed during the next downturn, keeping the skills in the state, while also providing housing for the homeless.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Graham Platner has won the Democrat senate primary but 19% voted for Janet Mills, even though she ended her campaign months ago.

    Maine, South Carolina, North Dakota, Nevada and primaries. I'll be watching to see if theres an anti-Platner vote given Janet Mills is still on the ballot despite withdrawing. Theres also a relatively unknown candidate called David Costello, who was the Democrat candidate against Angus King in 2024. King is an Independent but caucuses with the Democrats. Costello supports "Medicare for All".

    SC has a Jungle Primary system so if people dont get to 50%, it means there will be runoffs. Its looking right now like a tight three way race (29-25-19) in the gubernatorial GOP primary though Nancy Mace is further behind on 10%. Trump is backing Pamela Evett while Alan Wilson, currently running a close second, is the AG of SC and prosecuted Alex Murdaugh. Ralph Norman is 16%. 25% of vote in so far.

    Senator Lindsey Graham is so far ahead 59-26 in the primary.

    Post edited by Ozymandius2011 on


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