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New Shop Maynooth

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Yeah Burger (next to the castle) seems to have closed down. A pity, I thought the burgers were pretty good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Sean Seoighe


    It was a great place to have in the town - quality food (even if it may not have been to everyone's taste) and Puppa Coffee too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭FrankN1


    Pity none of the crappy chains don't leave like the chippers and supermacs. Absolute muck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,149 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    They either own their buildings outright (Romayos in Greenfield) or can afford the huge rent (Romayos Main Street is 52k/year, Supermacs 48k/year). Independents can't.

    Yeahburgr is actually a chain too, just a lot smaller than either of those; and the claim on the town facebook pages is that it was a huge rent hike.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,223 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    Wow, they're mad rents!

    I presume commercial properties don't have any rent caps or anything, like residential?

    Always seems mad when places close because of rent increases. There'll now be no rent paid on that place for a good while, surely it would have been better for the landlord to negotiate a level that would keep them in place and paying? Maybe that's very naive though



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,149 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    No statutory rent caps, but increases windows and even sometimes the amount are set out in the lease in advance for a period of usually 5 or 10 years.

    If you are concerned with maintaining book value of a property, the notional rent is often more important than the current rent; hence they get left empty. The world of finance is perverse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Sean Seoighe


    Anything our TDs and Councillors can do to effect this? Don't want the Main St shops / restaurants having an abandoned look or feel and there's now a few places creeping up that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,149 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    If it closed due to a rent hike as is being claimed by various people who claim to know, there's nothing that can be done by anyone other than the landlord; unless basically the entire world decides to change how to value commercial property.

    Councillors can look at business rates, but they are a much smaller element of total costs. Government TDs have some level of influence on lots of other business costs, but there is a VAT cut for hospitality coming in three weeks as it is.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,438 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    Not that I'm happy to see any place close but I am glad they didn't pay up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭social butterfly 2020


    That building has been in the same family for generations. Cant understand why they wld increase the rent and let it sit vacant. Its just plain greed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭crl84


    It's for that reason that they can.

    Owned outright I assume, so if it sits empty, it's no skin off their nose. That's assuming no leveraged loans for other ventures which the unit was paying for.

    Someone else will come along willing to pay the increased rent that Yeah Burger wouldn't pay, or they'll just drop the rent down until they get someone to pay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭vafankillar


    pity, quite liked yeah burger, definitely one of the better places in maynooth, would have gotten it more often but it closed early enough, around 9 i think.

    i'd say smoking goat would have done great there if they hadn't already the place beside tesco.

    always surprised pizza dog has survived this long, food is muck & never seems that busy (apart from the roost crowd after hours).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,149 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    McMahons have put in planning permission to extend over the Elite service yard - new beer garden and re-arrange internally to have more space; mainly by moving the function snug area out to the old taxi office that's in the smoking area now; and some other bits and pieces including a nicer frontage to Doctors Lane, replacing the old sets of gates they both have.

    No application in for the actual cafe or bakery element of the Elite, some of the drawings mention a future application for that. But I doubt it'll be merged in to the pub unless they add it as a separate area.

    The lounge can get very, very full on weekends and some evenings for food so I can see why they'd want more space.



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