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Is Derek Domino a real person?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,525 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    There's conspiracy theories amongst, the left, far left, the right, far right and centrists.

    It seems you just like conspiracy nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭seanin4711




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Yes, yes I do. Do you know why I follow the conspiracy theories? For the opposite reason you think "My government/teacher/Churchman/Elder/guru wouldn't lie to me ever!!!". Shure they do and that is how they control you and you happily go along with your day stay between the lines, pay taxes, medicate, eat the food we give you and dont ever dare question the system. I have no problem with you doing this your way, you are a responsible citizen. I bet you never saw the State/Church/Education system/Elders do anything wrong. You are conditioned to be this way. I came from this cult like envoirnment, I saw the light, I choose something else….. Dont be angry at me for my life choices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,525 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Do you know why I follow the conspiracy theories? For the opposite reason you think

    You say this then trot out the usual conspiratorial red pill nonsense.

    That's exactly the reasons I thought you'd give.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I don't think you are making the point you think you are making. The I bet you never saw X/Y/Z do anything wrong is a fallacy to trick people into following a conspiracy because we have all seen that. The irony being that because we have seen it, that it is exposed, maybe not as thoroughly or as quickly as it should be actually shows that those larger conspiracies are highly likely to be untrue as the sheer volume of people who would have to be knowingly complicit is unfathomable given what we have seen of human nature.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Well I was amazed people swallowed the whole Covid thing while watching Dr Luke O Neill in that bubble boy thing on RTE. Oh Sure I got conned before by the government in my youth. The Americans say there is nothing sadder than a young Republican or an old Democrat. You do know the government can put their files under secrecy rules of 30,50, 100 years and Never to be opened. I mean the The Birmingham 6 were definitely guilty. The police said they were guilty. The Forenesic Science officer said they were guilty. It was written in the papers beyond doubt that they were guilty. I was brought up to believe they were guilty. It was only a simple mistake by a clerical officer allowed the solicitor Gareth Pierce see the files that exposed the framing of the men. They were all supposed to die in Prison. Now tell me there was no institutional cover up by the Police, Forensic labs, Home office, senior civil servants and politicans to clear up loose ends in a terrorism plot. That was a conspiracy theory when I was growing up. Look how that has turned out and yet nobody held accountable, "Supressing and tampering of Evidence".

    Guildford Four? I didnt follow that story but I am guessing it was similar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Yes that is why, because it is how you are conditioned to think.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Again, as I said, one cover up does not mean everything is a cover up. Not going down the COVID rabbit hole. I have my own views, I didn't get to work from home, but I did get to see behind the scenes. Guess I'm part of the conspiracy, don't trust anything I say. Not sure what this has to do with Derek though, what conspiracies is he mentioning that you believe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,525 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    You've past Alice you're that far down the rabbit hole.

    Maybe the conspiracy forum is a better place if you want to discuss your thoughts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,974 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Wow someone's really been drinking from the conspiracy loon firehose.

    Beginning to wonder what society you are talking about at all @SupaCat95 ?

    "Churchman/Elder/guru" - completely American terminology no Irish person uses in real life. Laughably inappropriate to our society. We are, with good reason, extremely distrustful of "churchmen, elders" given the many odious scandals they perpetrated for so long. Religion in this country is dying on its arse. Gurus never got a look in

    "Brought up to believe the Birmingham 6 were guilty" - where? Sure doesn't sound like here.

    Then all the DEI hire crap, US RW racist crap which you still stand by.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    You are not going down the Covid rabbit hole because you bought into it and were a good boy. Derek Domino does not deal with conspiraccy theories, just the news that is dampened down by RTE and the articles in the newspaper in pages 7&8 in the narrow columns. The stories that people miss, the stories that are badly hung and the ones that do not make sense.

    I do not believe I have interacted with you before this so I dont know what to believe. You could be decent person who doesnt know any better, a useful civil/public servant innocently believing they are doing what is best in the National Interest or some devious boot licking bastard willing to do what ever is necessary to go from Grade 4 to Grade 5 in the civil service. How about we wait and see before we jump to hasty conclusions.

    I am always looking for in inconsistency in a story to prove or disprove it. Its always in the finer details.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Yep I was brought up in the 1980s and the Birmingham 6 were all definately guilty at that time. I couldnt understand why they were always appealing. What evidence was there in the 1970's and 1980s was there in the Pubic Domain that they "might" have been innocent? There was no homelessman in the park and there was not prostitute that reported that her takings were stolen. That is how the story was portrayed by the establishment. Why would any reasonable person question the establishment back then? I was brought up to believe that in a conservative catholic household, not knowing what I know now I had no reason to question it. It was correct as of its time. The Irish Government of the day did nothing to help either the Birmingham or Guildford cases. I was over in Birmingham on business a year ago and there are still some very old heads that remember it well and are agrieved about that business.

    No you are not distrustful as a society because the same old people are still getting elected that sing from the same old songbook. Its either Fianna Fail/Fine Gael with a junior political partner that gets shafted. So nothing has been changed or learned.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Whatever, I presume you didn't work in a lab or healthcare setting. Were mistakes made, 100%. Hindsight is wonderful. Was it made up, well, if so, I am part of the conspiracy, I seen enough and told people enough that I am either lying to you and complicit in a conspiracy the purpose of which is known only to of us on the inside or you drank the Kool Aid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    Derek is right in what he says. Regardless if he's a Bot or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    Derek is right in what he says. Regardless if he's a Bot or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    No I didnt at the time but I walked out a lecture by professor Philip Moran of MU on it. The voices of reason were drowned out by pseudo science. And PRC test was not supposed to be ran at 45 cycles.

    Y'know people get sick of the "mistakes were made" constant excuse without any held accountable. People are starting to wake up slowly to surpressed stories.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,420 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    "Voices of reason" being cranks who didnt deserve oxygen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Funnily enough they were the one getting oxygen. Everyone else had restriced breathing especially the trainee teachers in Maynooth who had a fetish for double masking. I myself had a medical exmption from wearing a mask.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,420 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,449 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    To be honest I had never heard of Kalergi until now, but how exactly can he be blamed for the endhitification of today's society? He philospised and agitated for pan Europeanism, somewhat influenced by his own experience of the multi ethic Habsburg empire.

    This of course incensed Hitler and the Nazis leading directly to the conspiracy theory nonsense.

    🙈🙉🙊



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    You havent heard of the Kalergi plan? You would wonder why his name is not synominous with the foundation of the European Coal and Steel community (Fore runner of the EU). I bet you have never heard of Albert Pike either.

    It was more than pan Europeanism, it was like Africa and Europe should have a shared culture. Shouldnt we have learned with the decolonisation and try to apply American/European solutions to African problems would not work out well. Banks, Foundations, Funds rushed in to modernise Africa and implement American/European food crops and Animals with modern mechanisation and practices. How could it go wrong? It nearly collapsed the world economy. The crops failed, the animals died and the machines broke and rusted in the fields. I have never been a fan of Colonialism. Let Africa for the Africans.

    Hitler and the Nazis more or less walked into Austria, Czechloviakia, Hungary, Romania up opposed? Poland got pinched on the hop with both sides attacked. So really not the same. Funnily Everyone blames the Austrian corporal but do you really think he could do that all on his ownsome without the support of a major European banking family?

    At the rate we are going the European dream is going to be gone in 2033. Much like the Roman Empire, the EU will be subsumed in something greater.

    Had the sisters in law around the other day and were telling me about the EU migration pact. I was like "Wow, I never knew that was going on". They are now organically aware there is a problem. That floored me.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,103 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    no one had heard of the “Kalergi plan” until it was fabricated 20 years ago by an Austrian Neo-Nazi, more than 30 years after Kalergi himself had died. Kalergi never made the plan he is associated with, it’s a straw man invented by violent, deranged racists and unquestioningly accepted by angry conspiracy theorists.

    If you haven’t heard of it, that is probably a good thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,103 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Hitler and the Nazis more or less walked into Austria, Czechloviakia, Hungary, Romania up opposed? Poland got pinched on the hop with both sides attacked. So really not the same. Funnily Everyone blames the Austrian corporal but do you really think he could do that all on his ownsome without the support of a major European banking family?

    In all the years I’ve been on boards, I’ve never seen anyone say that the Nazi conquest of Europe was no big deal or give Hitler a pass because bankers.

    Genuinely terrifying stuff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Have you ever heard of Albert Pike then?

    https://www.bundeskanzler.de/bk-en/european-prize-for-the-chancellor-477196

    You never heard of the eminent Count Richard Couden-hove Kalergi? He laid the plans for the EU? It wasnt even on the Leaving Cert? Loads of these things come out long after people have died or the 30, 50 , 100 year papers have passed.

    BTW how is the European dream going for you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Hitler could never have come to power without support. Otherwise he would have just been a lunatic raving in the street. A lot of people thought the same way as Hitler. I never absolved Hitler, I just said there were much greater forces at work. In a similar way that people blame "Simple Simon" Harris. He is only ratifying what is going on in the EU parliament.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,103 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    I don’t understand. I’m not denying that Kalergi existed, just saying that the “plan” is a conspiracy theory fabrication.

    nothing in that link even remotely relates to any of this.

    BTW how is the European dream going for you?

    Very well. We all have a quality of life that no Irish person could even have contemplated without the EU.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,103 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    When you’re literally defending Hitler, it’s time to put down the phone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    I am not defending him I am suggesting that that there were other forces at work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    What quality of life? We cant buy a home, 12k Irish homeless on the street. No Irish young graduate can buy a home. Graduate emigrating or living at home until married. Rising rates of violence, particularily against women. It feels like the famine times and the landlord telling the tenants to get the boat to where ever. Digital ID/wallets/biometric are also of concern.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Arseboxing


    What's your source for the claim that 12k Irish people are sleeping on the street?

    Screenshot (1684).png

    The heroes of the Irish far right are Donald Trump, Conor McGregor, Andrew Tate and Russell Brand. Men who are violent against women.

    The "right" to be violent against women is a core value of the Irish far right.

    You say "it feels like the famine times".

    I don't think I've ever read a more idiotic statement in my life.



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