Henry Nowak - I can’t breathe

This is not a reflection of anyone here, but I've seen it argued elsewhere (not on this thread), the idea that Nowak would probably have died anyway as a sort of defence of police behaviour. A mitigating factor. I don't understand this argument. The police did not believe Nowak had any sort of injury, and so if he had been less injured, they would have acted exactly the same. A lesser injury, and police inaction could well have been a factor in his death. The seriousness of his injuries should not stand to benefit the police in this particular case.

Talk about damaging somebody’s reputation, actually putting them in danger, with a false accusation…how does X get away with this?

https://news.sky.com/story/ex-police-officer-falsely-identified-by-grok-in-henry-nowak-arrest-is-forced-to-flee-13550667

I haven't seen a detailed timeline of the whole thing, but presumably the hour's delay would have included the time the paramedics spent working on him before his death was declared, so I think they were called before that, but I've no idea when. I saw 67 minutes between (something: stabbing? call being logged on the system??) and death being declared. It's all rather unclear, even with the partial timelines that I've seen.

At 23:07, Nowak can be seen [on CCTV] making his way back towards his university accommodation. (…)

The judge explained that footage filmed by Digwa showed Nowak "desperately trying to get away" by scaling a
fence and getting onto a communal bin before landing on a car in front of the next-door property. Digwa "continued to make films of Henry suffering, ignoring much of his desperation at having been stabbed", the judge added.

At approximately 23:30 - less than half an hour after Nowak was seen on CCTV heading home - the killer's brother, Gurpreet Digwa, called 999. He told the operator that Vickrum had been "attacked by someone racially" and gave the location.

"He's physically attacked my brother. We're Sikhs, we wear turbans and he's just attacked my brother," Gurpreet can be heard saying. He told the call handler, when asked, that no weapons had been involved but that Nowak needed medical attention. The call lasted just under 12 minutes. The handler tells Gurpreet that police officers will be at the scene "very shortly" and that an ambulance would also be called.

Seven minutes after the call was made, police arrived at the scence at 23:37.

Bodycam footage shows four people on a driveway while Nowak is on the floor. The footage shows Digwa lying to police by telling them he had been racially abused by Nowak.

One minute and 11 seconds into the footage, Nowak is heard saying he has been stabbed. He said "I can't breathe" seven times. At 23:38, Nowak is handcuffed. An officer is heard saying Nowak is under arrest and read him his rights.

One minute later, an ambulance is called and officers administer CPR.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjepqy29jdpo

There's a contradiction there though

The handler tells Gurpreet that police officers will be at the scene "very shortly" and that an ambulance would also be called. (…)

One minute later, [23:39, ie after he collapses] an ambulance is called and officers administer CPR.

So was an ambulance called at the same time as the police came out, or maybe it was more of a notification that one might be needed when they saw what was going on?

Between the filming and the long phone call, that's at least 17 minutes when we know that no help was called at all. And we don't know how long there was between the stabbing and Digwa's family arriving (did they give his mother a few minutes to get back home and hide the knife safely first? Sounds like they would have wanted to, doesn't it?) and then the call being made.

However despite believing that they were just going to cuff a drunk man who had shouted rude remarks and knocked another adult man's turban off, the police came 7 minutes after that not-terribly-urgent call.

It's like a caricature of the most exaggerated possible descriptions of "woke policing", where all those various RW figures have been saying for ages now that the police will rush to the scene of a racist remark but not to an actual stabbing…

That is your interpretation. Mine is that those raped by people close to them such as uncles, aunts, neighbours etc. are less inclined to report. Non-Irish people won't have as wide of a circle as Irish people, more likely that their extended family don't live in Ireland and their families are not as dug into the community. A non-Irish person committing rape may be more likely to be reported as a result. A victim can have less fear of coming forward if them coming forward doesn't start a rift in the family or town.

When the remigration begins her descendents will be born outside the UK, and she will get her wish.

Not defending Farage, but I think the misinformation being spread here is not acceptable. He did not say "white rage" and I find it concerning that several people gave this a like, so presumably believed it.

It's ironic to see complaints about people spreading misinformation when nobody picked up on this. But perhaps it's ok to spread lies about Farage because we don't approve of him, right?

Oh he knew full well playing the race card would get himself undeserved leeway.

Never mind worldwide - Starmer "took the knee" for an American convicted criminal who was under the influence of methamphetamines and fentanyl, but has been loathe to say anything, much less make such a gesture, for a lad born and brought up in England who wasn't even over the drink driving limit. It's crazy.

Starmer is a POS

If that's the case, that's genuinely shocking. Do you have a link to that??

ETA: found it:

Still. Probably just another uneducated far right idiot as the other poster said. I mean, anyone can run a chain of supermarkets and no doubt have nothing better to do than to fall for conspiracy theories that the much wiser posters of these boards can see straight through.

And that is absolutely disgusting, and so typical of violent men to seize a chance to inflict harm on someone else while pretending to be doing it because they're such good people "really".

People should not be fooled by that. They do it because they've found someone weaker than them and someone they can feel morally superior to as they torture him. It's not surprising that crims act like that - but what is surprising (to me anyway) is the number of noncriminals who consider themselves to be decent people who will cheer them on.

I'm not saying I hope he gets three star prison treatment with conjugal rights etc - I'm all for prison being a fairly miserable experience for someone like that. I'm making a point about male violence.

Those prisoners who attacked him may have done - or be capable of doing - things that are just as bad or worse, and I hate the idea that they know that people outside prison are cheering them on. It's like the man who murdered the Lost Prophets singer - the killer was a nasty piece of work himself, but it seems like by being violent - something they already enjoy anyway - they feel they've redeemed themselves, but only because here's someone who's even more hated than them, and so can be safely harmed. It's a win-win situation for men like that. And nothing like redemption.

And I don't think we should fall for it.

I’m relying on what is being reported by several outlets.

Reuters has verified evidence that Parsons was out of the country on that date and Hill had left the police force the previous year.

Hill also said she left Hampshire Constabulary in April 2024, which is corroborated by her past LinkedIn posts, that referenced her departure. Her later employer, a private security firm called Polaris Gatekeeper, said to Reuters in an ‌email that ⁠Hill worked for the company from May 2024, “immediately following her police service”, and had since continued working in the private security industry.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/pair-misidentified-police-officers-scene-nowak-death-2026-06-05/

Have Hampshire Police said these people were not involved yet? If that is the case, one would expect an employer or former employer to do that much.

sure I read it. Your objective from your first post was to engineer the discussion away from the wickedness of the perpetrator, the scandal of the on scene police response and the blatant racism on show for everyone to see, and shift all the emphasis on to the (as you see it) “far right” political response. You spare neither sympathy nor empathy for the deceased and his family. But that’s the way with you people.