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Do people lie or misremember?

  • 05-06-2026 12:42PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,273 ✭✭✭✭


    One day I walked past Costa Coffee with my aunt and mother and my aunt said it was lovely.

    A few weeks later she said she'd never been there.

    I've seeing other people do this also it could be about going to a restaurant, when something opened, the list is endless.

    Are these people lying or misremember or is there another reason.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    It could be both. I'm on medication that affects my memory so could be that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    I might be taking you up wrong but if the three of you passed by the Costa but didn't go in, then she's never really been in there. Maybe that's what she meant.

    But in general, I'd say is a mixture of both, but mainly misremembering. People often don't pay enough attention to stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Your memory doesn't exist to provide an objective record of events. It's biased because it's created exclusively from things you've seen and heard, tinted by your thoughts and reactions.

    Of course, she could've just forgotten. I was walking home yesterday and for some reason I asked what Seinfeld's first name was. Took a few minutes. Wouldn't mind but a few weeks ago, I was watching clips from the official channel where his name is regularly used.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭daheff


    maybe you misunderstood her. She likes Costa coffee in general, but has never been to that specific outlet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,273 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    She told us one day it was basically fantastic.

    A few weeks later she baiscslly said. She'd never been and must try it out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,273 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I should have been clearer.

    She told us one day that she went to the new Costa in the shopping center and it was great.

    A few weeks later she's never been in it or tried Costa.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭daheff


    ok, well then maybe she was just making conversation. struggling to find something to talk about so gabbled on about whatever she saw in front of her



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭The Mulk


    She was probably lying to impress your mother, making it look like she was living it up in Costa when your mam wasn't around.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    To be honest, I'd be concerned for anyone who thought that Costa Coffee could be lovely!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,037 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    A lot of people are fairly stupid and haven't got a clue what's going on yet have the confidence to spew out the first half baked thought that pops into their head.

    Recently I was talking about dating with a female friend, I mentioned liking some women in work. "Don't sh1t where you eat" she says. This coming from someone who met her husband in work and has 3 children with him.

    Walter Mitty types. I've known a few of them over the years and they seemed to genuinely believe that they were a cross between Rambo and Bruce Lee.

    Then there is the poster on here who was caught rotten lying about his pension, reregistered and is still posting and probably lying about his pension.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,607 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    I have never been to Costa coffee, nor had Costa coffee before, but I am beginning to like it, in spite of; or maybe because of this.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,655 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Was this Costa Coffee topic important or simply idle chat? Me thinks this example was the latter; consequently, I would give it the attention it deserves.

    Cmod Science, Health, and Environment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    For years I had a memory of staying up watching the famous black ball snooker world final in 1985 on a Monday night.

    Only in recent years I found out that it finished on a Sunday night not a Monday night.

    The reason I thought it was a Monday night was because almost every other world snooker final finished on a Monday night, and over time that gelled with my memory of watching the 1985 final.

    It's bit like the "Buried up to me balls in Bidi Baskin" comment from a caller to the Gerry Ryan show in the 1990s.

    Loads of people claim they heard it, but if yet to hear anyone give a definitive year let alone month or date when they heard it.

    But in reality they never heard it but they were just regular listeners to the show and as it became an urban myth they thought they remember hearing it.

    The at the end of the track Right Here Right Now by Fat Boy Slim there is an excerpt from a guy calling into the Bradley J show on WBCN in Boston, when I first heard it on the CD I swore I remember listening to the show (I lived there and listened to that show and station a lot) when that guy called in

    But in recent times I thought maybe not, maybe I just interested that memory because I listened to that show a lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,070 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    My favourite one is people remembering Trump talking about injecting bleach to kill covid. I went back and read the transcript and he never mentioned bleach, let alone injecting it.

    He did mention disinfectant, but not bleach. Yet lots of people remember him talking about injecting bleach.

    It's misremembering. Memory isn't a faithful representation of exactly what happened. It's supposed to be a useful recollection of the key points and we build the detail around that. Memory can be correct or incorrect



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    It is possible that some people think of bleach because Trump spoke into the mic and talked about ultraviolet and strong light and disinfectants straight after the topic of them was introduced by William Bryan (under secretary for Science and Technology at the Department of Homeland Security) who said "sun exposure and disinfectants, cleaning agents like bleach, could kill COVID-19 on surfaces and in the air" - Trump just continued Bryan's discussion points.

    Either way, it is still a really feckin stupid thing for a President to say!

    It is also odd that people's interpretation of a comment from Trump is one of your favourites 🙄

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    I think people do lots of little white lies to make up conversation as for some reason people find silence uncomfortable.

    It makes me really f*cking angry for whatever reason.

    The saying I've never been to a place yet they actually have been and I call them out on it, Can remember the time, day and date yet they'll deny it is a pretty common example of this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭paulpd


    To be a good liar you need a good memory



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 Sallythecat


    Some people forget stuff, currently i forget everything immediately after I have said it or it had happened. Menopause 😡

    But I have met a few people in life who are genuine liars, who make up stories every single day, some harmless, some not so harmless. I like to think i can tell the difference



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Costa, Insomnia, Starbucks, they're all pretty indistinguishable so she may have been to one when she said 'it's lovely' but realised she hadn't been to a particular Costa when that was the topic.

    I think the OP may well be confused.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,070 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    No argument that it's a stupid thing to say. But it doesn't change the fact that anyone who remembers Trump talk about injecting bleach is misremembering.

    I'd say its mostly to do with how it was retold in the days afterwards. The retelling included Trump talking about injecting bleach. So now people remember Trump talking about injecting bleach. It's not intentional, it's just misremembering.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,037 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    The example of misremembering what day the snooker WC final ended on is a trivial one. OTOH, there will be people who claim they were at the final who weren't. Same thing with Live Aid, Thomond Pk in 1978, Giants Stadium in 1994 etc.

    Idiots and Walter Mitties.

    And on Live Aid, Bob Geldof never said "give me your fcukin money", what he actually said was "fcuk the address, let's get the numbers". Yet people claim otherwise all the time, they heard him say it apparently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Yes he talked about using "ultraviolet or very powerful light" internally on lung tissue, and was probably thinking out loud of something in principle like chemotherapy which uses radiation and injections.

    Similarly Al Gore once spoke about how the US Senate, of which which he was a member, had funded the early internet as part of DARPA and for decades afterwards people said "Al Gore claims he invented the internet."

    I think those ones are closer to lies than misremembering as a lot of people are just political hacks who want to score points off their political enemies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,070 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I think you're skipping over the interesting part. Once people talk about trump talking about injecting bleach or Al Gore saying he invented the Internet, they overwrite their memory and that becomes the memory.

    Do an experiment. Ask someone near you if trump spoke about injecting bleach. If they say yes then just ask them about their memory. Where was he, what did he say exactly. They're telling you their memory, but in truth memory is recreated each time we bring something to mind.

    They did interesting research on eyewitness testimony. Show participants an accident and ask half what speed the car was travelling when it bumped the wall. Ask the other half what speed they were going when they smashed into the wall. The second group remembered the car travelling faster. How the question was asked changed the memory.

    Tldr, memory is supposed to be useful, not accurate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭growleaves




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 11,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Na, it's on you - you misunderstood!

    Your aunt thought it looked lovely [FROM THE OUTSIDE], but she'd never been in side….

    As someone who did a lot of insolvency and fraud work bank in the bad old days of the 1980s in Ireland and in more recent European financial crisis, I'd say generally speaking that people don't lie. But there is a lot of miscommunication, false assumptions and misinterpatation of people's actions. People hear part of a conversation, see part of an action etc.. draw conclusing on it, make statements that other people then depend on etc….

    When you have to draft a the book of evidence with the intention of charging someone with a criminal of say money laundry, it becomes very real. You have to tie people down to actual facts and sometime you discover that there is no basis for the charge! Such as I said it was "It was nice" [but OBVIOUSLY from the outside].



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,037 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    it always bugs me the amount of people who do not actually know what a lie is. Hint, it’s not just saying something that is false/untrue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,273 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    She said she went there and it was nice. There was a conversation about how much she liked it. I agree with the person who said she was trying to impress my mother.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Maybe you are misremembering what she said ? ;)

    It's common enough and would be more worrying if she was talking about serious things like health issues. .

    Give her a break.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 11,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    You will believe what you want… so why are you asking? Perhaps you should just avoid her in future, since you have such a low opinion of her.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Statins make your brain go soft. never have we had more dementia.



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