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Football Championship 2026 (Mod Note in OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,260 ✭✭✭andrew1977


    Yes, new 14k stadium under construction, due to be ready mid next year .

    Game should have went to CrokE park, 25-30k in total from both supporters. Its not as if Louth are strangers to croke park and have been winning games there frequently in recent yeards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,354 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Youd have to think Croker would be more of an advantage to Armagh.

    I think its a smart move to play in a club ground from a point of view of winning the game.

    Not ideal of supporters and i imagine Armagh will have much bigger support on the day with season tickets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,079 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    The President has no mandate to get involved in these matters. He should have just said its a decision of the CCCC and thats their area. He loves yapping, got stuck into Newbridge or nowhere, got embroiled in the Rory Gallagher thing, now hes at it again. He needs to shut his gob and get on with the big picture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,079 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    2 matches for busting a lad open with a punch is a joke. Thats the kind of thing that should nearly end your season. Murphy should have at least got 4 to 5 matches for the dig he threw. Clifford being the golden boy won't even get considered for his elbow to the face.

    The GAA have zero credibility when it comes to upholding rules and imposing punishments. Its make it up as you go along



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,475 ✭✭✭✭event


    Ach I'm sick of this comment from 'fans'. How many of them were in Croker on Sunday? How many of them have season tickets? How many of them go to their club games?

    Very few I would imagine. Too many people think that going to some Louth games means they are entitled to a ticket. Get involved with your club and there is a very good chance you will get a ticket.

    It seems to have passed a lot of people by that Louth want to actually win the game. The management and team have chosen a pitch that they feel gives them the best opportunity to do so



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,475 ✭✭✭✭event


    First phase of the stadium will only have about 6-8k capacity. So would be same issue next year anyway.

    30k fans in Croker looks sh1te to be honest. Would be empty and soulless, better off watching it on TV. All I read every week here is how the Dubs should stop playing in Croker cos its half full. Now people want to move a game to it and be a third full?

    No one has a divine right to go to a GAA match



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,768 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There are plenty of games in Croke Park with small numbers in attendance. It does not affect the quality of the game. The action is on the field not in the stands. Real fans are there for the sport, not for the "experience".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭darklighter


    Theres no uproar, as someone has pointed out above, the venue was picked to maximise Louths chance of winning and any Louth fan worth their salt knows that & is supportive of it. If I had my way, the game would be played in Ardee.

    There arent that many Louth "diehards", i've been to plenty of Louth games up & down the country and theres been many a day where i knew everyone there from Louth by name or sight and I can assure you, the "die-hards" would have been outnumbered by stewards. Any real die-hard should have their season ticket anyway & would have a guaranteed ticket for this game, as this was always a likely outcome.

    Using a round number of say 1,500 tickets to be distributed to clubs, thats around 35/40 per club & very few clubs would have that many members who regularly go to games, and my personal preference is always to give club members first dibs on tickets for sell out games, ahead of people who only support the county team. How clubs then decide on how to distribute their tickets is probably worthy of a whole different thread!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Of course no one has a divine right to go to a GAA match. But why on earth would the GAA wish to discourage regular supporters from going to one?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,475 ✭✭✭✭event


    Discourage? Sure there was only 16k Including Dublin fans) at the game on Sunday. People have ample opportunity to go see their team not 4 days ago and passed it up.

    Like it or not, but GAA is also about winning. Obviously the GAA is about community but you have to win games as well. Its not Go Games. And Louth have decided holding it in Inniskeen gives us the best chance.

    No doubt if we lose (which is very likely) there will be the usual hams saying they are delighted because we didnt host it in Croker for a fiver an entry but that'll be forgotten when the next GAA 'controversy' appears



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Winning should be achieved on the field of play, not by playing silly buggers with the venue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,615 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    There is no point in having home advantage unless you play at home. Louth came out of the draw first so they got home advantage. This was always going to happend where some counties have only small.capacity pitches

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭The Subliminal Verses


    You 100% never played a competitive game of football in your life



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,122 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    They're not paying silly buggers in the slightest. It's their right, just as it was Antrim's and and Kildare's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,912 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    100% Louth should have been made move the game to Croke Park. It would have allowed c.60% of the Louth population see this critical game.

    The competitive angle is not a factor, poor Dublin are constantly made to move their home games to the away/neutral venue of Croke Park,so should Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    If this was always going to happen, then why the home venues in the first place when some venues are unsuitable?

    This a bit like the defence to the judge that you couldn't stop because you were going too fast and the question was why you were going too fast in the first place.

    So the defence is that we may be bollixes but we are not the only one?

    Antrim, Kildare and Louth have a population of about a million between them, yet Leitrim or Carlow can provide proper grounds without all this crap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,475 ✭✭✭✭event


    So we do away with home advantage for all teams then. And what happens if Armagh get a home draw in the next round. Their capacity is only ~19k. They have way more fans than that going by everyone this week, so I assume you will be calling for them to move it to Croker?

    Should be achieved on the field of play? So every single game should be neutral then, right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    No, of course not. 99% of times venues do not lock out out thousands of people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,304 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    CharlesB is fully committed to the ethos of everyone who wants to see a game being catered for (until it becomes impossible when even CP is not big enough). That this should be something that is fundamental to the GAA.

    Others (myself included) think that home advantage, either through merit or via a draw, should be sacrosanct, though perhaps within a pre-determined minimum capacity. And indeed that the game, the spectacle, the atmosphere is at it's absolute best when an away team & fans rocks up to the home teams venue for a Saturday/Sunday game. That it is better to play such a game in front of a capacity 12K with 1000 left outside ticketless, rather than in front of 13K in a 25K or greater stadium in a neutral county.

    I'd accept that both sides of the argument do have some merit. I think the problem with poster CharlesB (who is fully entitled to his opinion) is that there is absolutely no give to the other side of the debate - a refusal to even acknowledge that the other side has a point when clearly they do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,475 ✭✭✭✭event


    But Armaghs ground could potentially "lock out" thousands of people. So how is that different?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Obviously very little to talk about this week when people are arguing over whether a venue is suitable or not.

    Louth have a venue to host the game. It will be played and life will move on. Its live on RTE so everyone who wants to see it wil see it one way or another.And Louth are working on a new stadium that will cater for most of their games.

    A hulabaloo about very little.

    .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    The Donegal Cork game is sold out. Maybe it should be moved!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    If this game was in Armagh it would lock out 10,000 less people.

    I think that the ability to actually go to games is a strength that the GAA has, and it should not be confined to select few. And a 12K ground with a 1000 left outside is 8% of people, the game being discussed is more like 55-60% of people left outside. At some point, reasonable becomes unreasonable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭eastie17


    grow the game of football in Cork? The only growing will be if ye get to an AIF and there’ll be growth in the lads and lassies jumping on the bandwagon who wouldn’t go see them normally if they were playing in the field next to the house.

    And then absolutely lambast them if they lose like they have nothing to do with Cork.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭eastie17


    which presumably when mcguinness wasn’t being looked at, look at they you have to look at Clifford and you couldn’t be banning him. Think of the ticket sales and Clifford jersey brand sales. The association must maximise revenue after all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭almostover


    I agree with you, there are many in the East and the City who wouldn't cross the road to watch Cork play football.

    We're without our best player now too next weekend. Colm O'Callaghan's red card was upheld. Ludicrous really, an accidental forearm clash to the Meath player as he was trying to move past him with the ball. A yellow at most. How often do you see a player in possession of the ball get sent off while trying to move past an opponent?

    And yet king David can smash his elbow into the face of a Donegal player off the ball and face zero sanction. The GAA has always been totally amateur when it comes to the disciplinary process.

    Michéal Burns gets a 2 game ban for landing a few uppercuts and drawing blood from a Donegal player, a fairly soft punishment. But Kerry always get their way. Not that it matters because Jack will most likely jettison him from the panel. Burns may have some hope of playing in Croke Park this summer, he could be on the undercard for Katie Taylor with his boxing skills.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    the truth is GAA dosent attract a huge percentage of louths population it’s soccer country mostly especially in drogheda and Dundalk. I’d say if you stop 10 people on the street in drogheda today if 2-3 of them know who Louth are playing next Saturday you’d do well. I’d say a good few might not understand the question for starters. Louth is a very urban county GA heartland is in countryside



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    A game between one of the AI favourites and its second largest county certainly should be streamed. It is infeasible for a lot of Cork people to travel so far. The cameras will be there anyway and at the time it is at it would not much affect people attending other games. The GAA is a bit odd sometimes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,768 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    38 clubs in Louth, plenty of those in Dundalk and Drogheda, and a good geographical spread overall. Meath has 59, both are much the same per head of population. That means if you stopped 10 people in Navan only 2 or 3 would know who Meath are playing. Most of them would not understand the question.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Dogsdodogsstuff


    I don’t know why people talk of other counties attendances as if the amount of people in that county going to games should automatically increase relative to its size. Same goes with team quality.

    Kerry and Kilkenny aren’t the most successful counties in their respective codes simply because of amount of players or resources.

    The real question is “why isn’t there more interest in the games in that county” and “how are some counties able to use their resources better , what are they doing better and other counties not doing”.

    The G.A.A. have to take responsibility for how the game has progressed and it’s their responsibility to answer/address these questions. I’ve given plenty of reasons why going to Dublin home matches is no fun, but it doesn’t seem to compute with many. The G.A.A. community seem to prefer Dublin playing at HQ, it’s not for the fans (most hardcore would prefer Parnell) or to give Dublin an advantage that’s for sure.

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