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I will say (and with transparency I had/have connections to Highfield) that the comment on cutting the club in half does have some merit. The main pitch 1 is normally a match pitch and 2 is the main training location, the proposed route in red essentially bisects the overall site. The normal use of the club will require players/patrons to cross the track, something that is doable no doubt but given the high level of underage activity there is considerable merit to the fact that there is a risk to having active trams and children in close proximity.
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Not buying it. It's a theoretical risk, not a "genuine" one. The tram has a driver, who has a clear line of sight, the driver can stop if a kid runs out in front of this, the only vehicle using the tracks. How is this a greater risk to children than crossing a road where cars are driven - something they do every day to get to and from training.
This is not about child safety. If it were, the club would have led their complaints with that. They haven't. So far they've said nothing at all about why they're against the line, only that if the line is built, it will somehow bring an end to the club.
This campaign is nonsense: the board needs to decide between supporting their community or supporting the club car park.
@Corkladddd!! ...you have the tracks in the wrong place on your picture. First, the path is not that wide, and second the route does not touch the grass of Pitch 1 at all; the school field to the south provides land here..
You can download the real plan from corkluas.ie. It shows the field boundaries and the path of the tracks and cycleway
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True, not everyone is able to read a technical drawing, but I would have expected the Rugby Club to find someone — I cannot believe that this the only Rugby club in the country without any engineers in its membership! And it’s not as if these are particularly complex - TII has put a lot of work into making these clearly readable, and marking exactly what lands are to be taken; there are even pictures of how the line will look at various points along its length.
The plans for here are at this link: luas-cork-map-book-2-cork-city-west-a3-web-1.pdf, Maps 26 and 27 cover the two clubs.
Regarding child safety, Map 26 includes a cross-section drawing that shows that the way through here will be fenced off (reproduced here, fences circled). Note that there’s a cycleway between the footpath and the trams. There’s no reason for a child to run onto the tracks here, because there is nothing reachable beyond the tracks, and they would also have to cross a cycleway first. I expect this layout to continue all the way through the green-laned section here.
Around this area there are two places where pedestrians and vehicles can cross the lines, so these are the only areas where I expect the side fences will be absent. They are:
1. Entrance to Bishopstown GAA car park - full vehcile and pedestrian access.
2. Link between upper and lower pitches at Highfield RFC - mainly for pedestrians, with access for club vehicles, same as at present.
Highfield RFC is the biggest loser in terms of land, but the biggest winner in terms of service. In exchange for the bottom of their car-park, the club gains a new pedestrian entrance to the Club grounds below the clubhouse, that puts the clubhouse a mere 120 metre walk from the proposed Bishopstown Avenue stop:
For this to be useful as a match-day entrance, a turnstile or booth needs to be put there, but this isn’t expensive, and is something I’m sure the Luas project can pay for. Where it really benefits the club is for functions using the clubhouse - they will have a venue with a tram stop basically outside the door.
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