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Liverpool FC - Talk /Gossip/Rumours 25/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,183 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    I think we're going to start hearing a lot more of this now the season is over

    I respect the (what seems like a communal) decision to not discuss it much during the season, but I wonder if people would have looked at the football differently if we'd heard more



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,759 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    One of the big sticks that was used to beat Slot with, was the amount of days off the players received midweek. The general intensity of the play was low last season, and by all accounts so was the intensity of training sessions, when they actually took place.

    There were so many weeks where the players were pictured off around Europe on a Tuesday or Wednesday when there was a game at the weekend. This painted a bad picture, especially when following a defeat or proceeding one. It gave the impression that the players didn't really care and/or weren't putting the effort in on the training pitch in the lead up to games.

    These days off stemmed from Slot himself wanting days off as he wanted to be at home in Holland with his family. And look I understand the reasons why the family didn't move, settled in Holland in schools etc, and I can also understand why Slot wanted to be at home as much as possible. And because he wanted to be at home as much as possible, he couldn't exactly not show up to training 2 days a week and expect the players to be there putting in maximum effort when the manager is not there to see it.

    The thing is, players & managers already get a lot of days off. A club manager already gets a long period of time off during the summer, and there is nothing stopping the managers family going to the tour locations at the same time as the club either, or on any school holidays. The international breaks are also quite common. He could have gone back to Holland every 2 weeks for an extra day or something similar.

    The family not moving should have been a red flag from the start. It will be now moving forwards for any potential other new managers.

    The thing that somewhat worries me now with Iraola is that there is some talk that one of the reasons that he only signs 2 year deals at a time is because he wants flexibility to be able to move easily once his family wants him to move. It doesn't give long term vibes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    As far as I know, Iraloa family has yet to move over to the UK. Theres a few rumours that they might move to Merseyside with him, but they defintely were not in Bournmouth. I think its quite common however, Pep's family (before the split) did not live in Manchester.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,995 ✭✭✭mormank


    I just read some quotes on the BBC earlier today supposedly from Iraola talking about the sacrifice his family makes in following him from country to country as he pursues his career. If those were fake I give up. 🤷



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,995 ✭✭✭mormank


     "My family is very important. They are sacrificing a lot. I am going from country to country to the best clubs I have the opportunity to go, and they have to come with me. I am very clear I couldn't do this without them. If they tell me one day 'I want to go back home', I am leaving. We will go back home. I know there will be a moment in my career when I will have to not be the protagonist, when my kids are older and I won't be the boss any more. I will be happy and we will go back home and I will be the supporting team behind. I know this moment will arrive"

    That is a quote directly off the BBC website from Iraola talking to Kelly Somers whoever she is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Fair enough, I actually wasn't sure. I was only going off a podcast who stated that he was hoping to move his family from Spain to Merseyside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    I absolutely HATE the drongo ‘we play 3 games a week’.

    If a week starts on a Saturday it ends on a Friday.

    It’s 65 games over 41-42 weeks.

    If any premier league team wins all their cup competitions then they play 1.6 games a week over the period of a season. That’s the seasonal average.

    No team plays on a Saturday, then a Tuesday and then a Friday except in rare exceptional circumstances.

    Any other take is moronic imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    How does everyone think Iraola will do having to play 3 games a week?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭John arse




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Listening to a podcast today I discovered Iraola was studying to be a lawyer in Spain and only abandoned his studies once he made it into the Athletic Bilbao first team.

    He's the Spanish Martin O'Neill!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,183 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    6 games a fortnight? It would kill a man at his age



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    I listened to a few podcasts throughout the day, and the general prediction seems to be that it's going to be a big summer, with a squad being assembled for the new Iraola era.

    He appears to be the opposite of Slot in that he prefers a deeper squad, with multiple options in every position to cope with the extremely high-intensity style he likes to adopt.

    Some interesting names were mentioned, but what stood out to me was how some of the players we already have fit into that system.

    I think there are going to be big question marks over Isak and McAllister going forward. Isak, in particular, strikes me as almost the most anti-Iraola forward imaginable. Hopefully I'm proven wrong on that, and there's a genuine plan to make both him and Wirtz work cohesively within the side.

    That's something Slot seemed to struggle with massively.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭redoctober


    To be fair there are many weeks where a team can play on a Sunday afternoon, a Wednesday and then a Saturday. What Span of time has elapsed in that case?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭Cyloncity


    Despite a dreadful season I think we can all agree we had to watch too many of our games a week. One a week was more than enough!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,328 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Has Iraola ever had to play an FA Cup and a Club World Championship game on different continents within 24hrs?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    I don't know, i think it deserves a discussion at the very least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,766 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Was Isak not quite good at pressing for Newcastle? Seems to remember him always been a bit of a nuisance against us even when he wasn't scoring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,403 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Jesus Christ can we leave the x games in a week thing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,514 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Yeah, he can actually be a good presser. We just haven't seen him fit enough to do that for us (and we also weren't much of a pressing team this season anyway), but if he gets back fit between the world cup and the preseason, that style of play isn't beyond him. It probably does need to be a case of picking and choosing the moments, rather than just running non-stop though, as that's just unsustainable for most players over a season as packed as ours.

    It could also be one where he becomes the free man to avail of a press - with wingers/attacking mids pressing and him dropping into a pocket to block a passing lane while also putting him in a great position to receive a pass. He can definitely work with Iraola I think.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,553 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    I find it weird that we question what will Iraola do with Wirtz, Isak, Ekitike, as these players don't run, or press. NO ONE was running or pressing before Klopp arrived. Nothing to do with players, if they have legs they can run and do what they're asked to do



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭Ken Tucky


    10 games in a week 😮...I think we should play the kids in the Milk cup so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,054 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    You know, Toby, it hasn't happened much this season but I completely agree with you!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Newcastle under Howe are very different from what Iraola will expect from us. Howe is quite dogmatic in his approach, slowing the game down and just general sh*thouse tactics.

    They also don't press particularly high up the pitch. They're very much in line with the current crap trend of low-to-mid-block football. win the ball back in their own defence or midfield third and then transition quickly to catch opponents on the back foot.

    Isak was the perfect foil for that system because he generally played on the shoulder of the last defender and was given the freedom to drift into wide areas. It's also largely why he looked such an odd fit under Slot last season, the few occasions he did get on the pitch!

    That's probably why you remember him being such a nightmare to play against. With our high line we tended to offer him huge amounts space when got turned over!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Particularly from those who have left / will leave the club this Summer. I'd say it's very hard to talk publicly about it while being in the middle of it with your teammates. Doubly so when trying to focus on matches. I hope Slot goes on to do great things, he may have got a lot wrong this season but mentality in the club (all the way through) must have just been shattered before a ball was even kicked. Then it was set back after set back, kicking them when they were down. Over the years, the stories will be shared (as they already have started to be) and I think we'll look back and feel Slot was hard done by. Not necessarily that he was absolutely the right man to take us forward but that the club and the squad in particular were not the same after Jota's death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,514 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I dunno about that… I've definitely seen Howe's midfield of Guimarães, Joelinton and Tonali playing a mid-to-high press too, where they monster you out of possession and force turnovers in dangerous areas. I didn't watch much of them this season, but the season before (with Isak) they were super physical and aggressive in the middle, creating chances quickly from pressing. (A bit of this sort of carry on, though Chelsea made it particularly easy for them here!)

    Isak was the best all-round striker in the league the season we bought him, so I don't think it was too odd to move for him… as you say, he can shift wide, or play on the shoulder. He can poach, or carry it from deeper. He can dribble, smash one from distance, or knock in a header. I think fitness and mobility (never more than 4 weeks of availability at any point all year) along with playing in a dysfunctional team was a much bigger factor than his compatibility. He's one of the few lads who can work in nigh on any system I think.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭Libertine07


    Wirtz can absolutely press well, he did it at Leverkusen. Really hope Iraola can help him kick on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Iraola will be signing his contract tomorrow.

    What's the chances the first question he'll have to answer at his press conference is about playing 3 times a week!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Elliot Anderson lined up for city it seems, probably would have been good for us from what I've seen of him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    I assume he's going to cost £100 million plus so not a sensible signing given our current squad issues.

    By my reckoning, we need a right back, a centre back, a defensive midfielder and 2 wide attackers.

    Iraola will need Richard Hughes to have a blinder this summer if we're going to be competitive next season.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Foreign Sports


    Replacement for Bernardo Silva. Huge shoes to fill there.

    Would prefer Wharton as he is more of a DM



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