Liverpool FC - Talk /Gossip/Rumours 25/25

If Hughes and Edwards used sophisticated, detailed analytical tools to identify Slot as the best man for the job, how do we trust their judgement that Iraola is now the best man for the job just two years later?

Well he won the Premier League in his first season so,,,,,,,,,,

we will never know what the full impact of the jota tragedy on the manager and squad was, it put us in a spin that slot couldnt get out of but clearly he is a good manager, it just wasnt going to work out at liverpool with how things have gone.

If we got CL with the worst season in a decade with nothing going right and a coach who seemed to be at complete odds with the football we want to aee then I'm.not sure we missing out on 4th/5th should be our biggest concern.

We'll see though.

Klopp's first full season we got 4th on the last day but what an incredibly different season it was to this one.

Yes. Just having a look back there. We were top after 11 games on 26 points and had beaten Chelsea, who would be champions, away from home!! Massive turn-around from B-rod. I remember a friend of mine who's an arsenal fan texting me saying Liverpool look like the winners this season. Unfortunately we tailed off. Drew a good few games and lost a few in Jan/Feb which allowed Chelsea to pull away. Still there were great signs and we were a joy to watch:

4-3 away to Arsenal

4-1 against Leicester

5-1 against Hull

6-1 against Watford

4-1 Stoke

4-0 away to West Ham

And this was before we added Salah, VVD and Alisson!!!

We hold on to Josh Abe

I was reading after Slot was let go that he wasn't actually spending any time with the youth teams which isn't a great showing compared to Klopp.

Szobo has two years left on his contract,if he refuses to sign a new one and an offer comes in for him,do the club take it? Whatever happens he can't be let run down his contract like Trent and Konate.

Chiesa should be gone, Como likely. He's been with us long enough and not shown anything. A shame, but we can do better especially for that level of wages

I would think so. Players with aspirations, whether warranted or not, have no problem letting a year run down so if you let it get to that point by not making the hard choice a couple windows before, you'll just risk falling foul. Something we seem to be blind to - at least outwardly anyway, I suspect in the case of Trent we weighed the near zero return against what he would actually offer us on the pitch. Probably Konate to a lesser extent, but I'm sure Trent's exit was well sign-posted to the hierarchy.

No World Cup in the way, so I'd have the powers that be put it to him this summer, if they haven't already. If there's no positive vibe, put the feelers out there. If nobody is biting, leaving it a year will be a risk IMO. Any transfer a year from now wouldn't be as lucrative, though the contract cancellation would offset it somewhat. If he's still in the frame for a BIG move 12 months from now, chances are he'd probably be encouraged to sit it out for the big dough.

We aren't a small club looking to cash in, but there are certain aspects we can't offer like the other big boys out there. That's just the reality of elite football and has always generally been the case.

I've no truck with keeping Szob, preferably under a new contract. He's a big character but far from the finished article. In a lacking season, I think he provided more big moments as opposed to big performances, but I'd be excited to see him under a new regime with a manager using him effectively, not to mention positionally. If he's left as is, then we'll probably get another couple seasons of that, which is fine, but runs the risk. He could have a stinker next season and find himself in and out with an agent banging on our door for a new deal. Just no guarantees......other than the fact he's got a couple years at whatever rate he's on right now.

Nobody is saying flog him, it's just talk.

In 2019, we couldn't match the salary that PSG offered Adrien Rabiot. Evan Ndicka cited the guarantee of regular first team football as deciding factor in his decision to join Roma in 2023.

"Of course no team plays 3 games a week". Thank you. That's all I ever said and you've finally admitted I'm correct and I'm not making false assertions as you claimed before.

It is not a straw an argument. It is a semantic argument. One that I only made cos it was quiet that day and I never expected to still arguing a black and white point 3 days later…

It's like how there is no such thing as a "busted flush", there is only a busted flush draw but people keep calling it a busted flush.

Leaving the semantics aside are you acknowlegding or not that managing a team across multiple comps is a bigger challenge? As if you aren't you would be in a very small minority - it's one of the main negatives being discussed across the board for Iraola along with managing a team looking to dominate possession rather than be the "smaller" team looking to upset.

Obviously it's a bigger challenge!

All I said is that no team plays "3 games a week" and it does my head in that it's become common parlance, much like the term "busted flush". There is no such thing as a busted flush just like no professional team plays 3 games a week.

It was a quiet day when I posted it and someone else had just used the term "busted flush" so I decided enough was enough! 😁

People on this thread are constantly misinterpreting posts by other posters and arguing points they never even made. Just read the words I typed and respond to them. No where did I ever say or imply its not a bigger challenge to manage Liverpool than it is Bournemouth. That's insane!