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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    oh I’m aware of their many different employment tax related shall we say “issues”.


    As usual with RTÉ I suspect there’s more to come….

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    RTE DG spending 'more than €20,000 on meals and hotels when some TDs can claim over €30,000 without showing receipts.

    I'm shocked, truly shocked.

    PAC should look into this 'scandal' immediately, LOL.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Expunge


    Well, you can add Damien Tiernan to that list. Former South East correspondent also left a number of years back, moaning that he couldn't get airtime for his stories on the main bulletins.

    He now is a presenter on WLR in Waterford. The South East correspondent role has long since been filled.

    I think these decisions happened under the watch of then Director of News, Jon Williams.

    It might be worth it to some journalist to kick over a few rocks from that era for a few more revelations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    LOL?

    Classic whataboutery example as usual.

    Why stop at TDs? Why not say Premiership Soccer Stars get €xx million per year so The Toyman should too?

    RTE gets a €700m+ taxpayer funded bailout AFTER The Ryan Tubridy Pay Scandal and all that came out after that and instead of cutting back on expenditure you think DG’s meals and accommodation spending is a laughing matter?

    Or are you just LOL-ing because it’s taxpayer money?

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,646 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/not-squarely-a-redundancy-ciaran-mulloolys-special-exit-deal-from-rte-was-referred-to-revenue/a/154301622.html

    the McCann FitzGerald report found RTÉ

    “indirect suppression”, whereby the headcount reduction from
    his redundancy was covered by another natural exit.

    https://about.rte.ie/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/RTE-VEP-Report.pdf

    Indirectly suppressed roles
    In the case of four departures (Employees G-J: three under the 2017 VEP, and one under the 2021 VEP as referred to at 7.39(a) below), roles were backfilled by internal candidates, with cost savings identified elsewhere in organisation structure (such as through retirements and non-replacement of specified roles). This backfilling took place in circumstances where the relevant roles had been indirectly suppressed in the context of restructuring of their teams. In two instances under the 2017 VEP (including the former Chief Financial Officer 2012-2020, considered in section 8 below), the roles were directly backfilled by an external candidate.
    While it was within RTÉ’s power to accept an application for voluntary severance, the
    departures do not fall squarely within the statutory definition of redundancy which, in the context of limb (c) quoted at paragraph 6.29 above10 refers specifically to the role of the redundant employee: ‘the work for which the employee had been employed (or had been doing before his dismissal)…’ Accordingly, our view is that Revenue Commissioners may take the view that RTÉ was not entitled to apply the tax exemption applicable to statutory redundancy payments to the VS Redundancy Lump Sums received by employees whose roles were indirectly suppressed, and subsequently backfilled. This will however be a matter for the Revenue Commissioners to determine. The total amount of tax-exempt payments made to this group of former employees was €103,587

    they seem to contradict themseles later

    7.40 Overall, we were satisfied that applications under the 2021 VEP were considered consistently, and that roles were only approved for exit where they could be suppressed.

    Post edited by expectationlost on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    The idea of some TD from Donegal or Kerry questioning Kevin Bakhurst about spending ‘over €20,000’ is hilarious.

    Unless of course it would be on how to save 30% of a his own allowance to stash under the bed.

    LOL



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Why? Just because one person claims over the top expenses doesn't mean another should.

    Imagine if they have taken a look at D4bes expenses, indeed just look a Jon Williams, he claim for flights to new york which had nothing do to with his work in RTÉ, but I suppose he made sure to build it into his contract! Along with €20k car allowances. Maybe if the TDs had done their job over a decade ago KB4 might have got back to Ireland sooner.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    What’s hilarious is you thinking that it’s perfectly acceptable that the same state broadcaster that required a €700+ million bailout of taxpayer money to stay afloat continues to spend with reckless abandon and zero accountability and how dare a mere TD question the head of that organisation.

    It’s all very peculiar and intriguing.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    More news on RTE's 'spend thrift' ways.

    RTÉ spent more than €270,000 on wardrobe items last year, with transactions totalling €33,000 from Brown Thomas and €13,000 at Louis Copeland.

    More specialised items were also purchased, with €135.76 paid to An Garda Síochána, €261 at an outdoor and military clothing retailer and €434 at Party HQ.

    There were bills of about €1,000 from Hugo Boss and payments totalling just over €5,000 for items from the designer Karen Millen.

    Other purchases included €77 spent at Oxfam Cork and about €1,900 for products from online marketplace Temu.

    RTÉ spent €277,000 on costumes and clothing last year – The Irish Times

    I'm outraged, €77 at Oxfam is scandalous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    What a shock that you focus on the €77 and not the €277,000.

    You’re probably more outraged they didn’t use NKM for consultancy on the wardrobe choices.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Are they thrifty?

    I do think that there is day-to-day spend that RTÉ have to spend, and some of this would come under their remit.

    I'd actually say they are thrifty in areas where they shouldn't be and flaithiúlach in areas where they shouldn't be.

    Part and parcel of making programming is music, costumes, set design and graphic design. (Weather RTÉ get those right or not is another question).

    But look at Claire Byrne Live, almost every season it had a new desk and chairs or a rearranged set, this wasn't good value, then it was replace by a new show again with a new set, graphic design and music, did they really need to change it?

    But I don't get your argument. Should we not care what RTÉ spend, do you believe that they are now doing a good job?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭csirl


    One of the biggest lack of thrift is in Morning Ireland.

    Someone presents the show.

    Someone else reads the regular news.

    Another person reads the sports news.

    Another person reads the business news.

    Another person reads out the weather

    None of the "news readers" write their own bulletins - they are written by another group of people (i"ve a friend who used to write news bulletins for "prima donna" news readers! He previously worked in the UK where this would never be allowed).

    In any sane radio set up you could have just one news reader reading all the news/weather and writing the bulletin themselves!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭amlinopta


    4 regular presenters, none of whom present more than 3 programs per week, all be it some of them, such as Sarah McInerney, have other commitments. Also a host of stand in presenters. Typically at least 3 sports presenters covering the five days with again nobody on more than 3 times per week. A "normal" week for a lot of RTE staff would appear to be 3 or 4 days work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    But we are lead to believe that they are in on the days that they don't broadcast!

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Shocking, it could all be done by some teenager on minimum wage from his/her bed.

    'The news today is whatever"

    LOL



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭csirl


    Yes ithe fact that it actually could be without any drop in quality tells you how absurd the salaries paid by RTE are.

    lm sure there are many out there who'd be happy to read out a short pre-prepared bulletin on air every half hour for 2-3 hours a day for a fraction of the cost of the current tean. This should really be a part time gig for some young broadcaster or journalist who's main job is something else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


     "who's main job is something else."

    Whose

    Dog walker, wedding planner, wannabe celeb?

    Post edited by Cyclingtourist on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It interesting how for 7 years Dee Forbes, Adrian Lynch, Jim Jennings, Richard Collins, Jon Williams, Eimear Cusask, Rory Coveney, Geraldine O'Leary, Richard Waghorn and Paula Mullooly, were unable to run the company.

    Imagine they probably wouldn't be able to walk a dog, planning a wedding…. but they sure has hell got their 15mins of fame, indeed 2 of them remain in RTÉ.

    3 years on with a largely a new leadership team, I still don't see the head honcho's in RTÉ being able to run the company.

    A massively failed public service broadcaster. But we are supposed to believe that everyone in the company is a professional!

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Did you just discover “LOL” this week?

    Suggesting they’re overstaffed isn’t quite the same thing as suggesting a teenager replace them all. But you knew that.

    Post edited by Peter Dragon on

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    A lot of people (both internally and externally) made a lot of money under Forbes.


    It looks like a lot of people (both internally and externally) continue to make a lot of money under Bakhurst.

    Plus ça change…..so to speak.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Just saw an ad for Marty’s Party in the Sun or something like that, for €1600.

    Join Marty and Johnny Logan, Linda Martin and more (as if that wasn’t enough?) in Alicante.

    No doubt Bakhurst has approved this as Marty’s “a good GAA man” and shure don’t ask any questions about the car.


    The Toyman must be struggling to sell tickets for the Gaeity as he’s now added fellow NKM stablemate and star Baz to the list. No-one supports NKM stars like fellow NKM stars.all approved by KB I’m sure.

    Meanwhile straight Queen of Ireland Doireann Garrihy is incredibly busy promoting Laya Healthcare (Brand Ambassador), Blanchardstown SC (where she’s now a Brand Ambassador no less - who knew shopping centres had Brand Ambassadors?), Volkswagen (yes, Brand Ambassador!), Centra (you guessed it), Millies (yes) and so much more! All approved internally I’m sure by KB and his compliance team (lol - as someone is fond of saying!). It must be great to be incapable of shopping for yourself and having stars like Doireann guide you towards the right purchases. If only RTÉ wouldn’t pay her a pittance she wouldn’t have to do all these side gigs and podcasts and concert/podcast tours to make ends meet. What’s great about the podcast though is she gets to interview other NKM stars constantly and then they can have her on their podcasts too so win-win!

    These stars need our help. Maybe RTÉ could organise a telethon to raise money for the stars?

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    I am aware of that.

    the MM car issue(s) has never really been explained. I have many questions…..

    Was MM claiming mileage/expenses from RTÉ for all the years he was travelling the country covering GAA? Or are we supposed to believe that RTÉ were under the impression he was paying for his fuel and car related expenses out of his own pocket because of his love of the games?

    The converse also applies, if he wasn’t getting mileage and expenses - why not? Considering the mileage the man certainly used to do you’d be talking hundreds of euro each week. And yet we’re supposed to believe he never claimed this and RTÉ seemingly never sought to ask if his expenses were covered?

    What was the exact nature of his free car relationship with the supplier? What was the quid pro quo? The supplier believe it or not was Renault…..

    Morrissey claimed at the time the car deal was approved by RTÉ - who approved it?

    Morrissey also possibly had a brand ambassador car deal previously with BMW in 2016 btw. Colm Quinn BMW had a number of social media posts pre-dating The Ryan Tubridy Pay Scandal claiming Morrissey was a brand ambassador including pictures of MM receiving the keys to the car from Quinn himself, but apparently this was all a “misunderstanding”. The posts are deleted but also still available online as well as reports covering both their publication and deletion. The deletion happened post MM handing back the Renault btw.

    Now whilst not as in deep as The Toyman it does seem that the rules were applied rather differently for MM as for The Toyman - which I’m sure adds to his belief that he’s the real victim in all of this.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    "A good neighbour may collect your children from school, drop milk in, or give you a dig-out here and there. But what if being a good neighbour meant swapping houses?

    That’s what RTÉ sports broadcaster Jacqui Hurley is asking with her new business, Good Neighbour.

    Similar to house-swapping à la Nancy Meyers’s The Holiday, Good Neighbour wants to offer those looking to move – but stay in their local area – a chance to find a home better suited to their needs and circumstances."

    RTÉ’s Jacqui Hurley sets up business matching downsizers with those trading up: ‘There’s probably trepidation’ – The Irish Times

    Good to see the social-entrepreneurial spirit is alive and well in RTE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Sounds like a good charity work alright, I am sure her work in the new company is voluntary.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    🤣🤣


    Will we get the usual RTÉ supporting RTÉ hyperbolic coverage of this with Ms. Hurley being hailed as some sort of business guru and this idea being championed across radio and tv with interviews and profile promotion to beat the band? Probably.

    Post edited by Peter Dragon on

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭Hailtothethief


    It's interesting the pricing structure. I wonder if there's an auctioneer behind it or has Jacqui got the necessary qualifications



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 818 ✭✭✭20/20




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Makes a change from wife swapping I suppose.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    No wonder Centra is one of the most expensive places to buy a bottle of milk, someone has to pay the ambassador…



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