Is Irelands neutrality stance in WW2 unfairly criticized? (see Mod note 217)

Wrong again. I already corrected you that the Donegal corridor only came in to place in 1941 and then only supposed to be for air sea rescue missions. RAF and Allied serve people were actually interned here in the early years of the war. Later in the war, by 1942, the policy softened, and RAF and other Allied airmen were often discreetly escorted across the border into N. Ireland, instead of being interned.

It appears you were not aware that the Germans sunk over 1100 ships in the Atlantic in 1940 alone, and that there were no overflights of our territory allowed then.

Nice little diversion around the questions, but you still did not answer them.

Why did our government allow Hempel the Nazi here to live here in 1945, 1946, 1947 , while not allowing any Jewish refugees in, or any in any numbers at least?

Was Hempel asked about Hitler's Irish Slaves?

Why were returning Irish people from the war shunned? I suppose if the story of how Irish people were made work to death in Hitler's slave labour Concentration camps, people would have questioned Irelands neutrality in the war more. Some Irish people found it difficult to believe Hitler would do that anyway, . After all, during the war the media here was not allowed use the word Nazi even, in case it would offend the poor dears. Why was censonship so much tilted in favour of the Nazis - we our media did not report the Concentation camps or the people killed there, but instead reported the civilians killed in Dresden?

Why were we not made aware - by our government, even after the war - that Nazi Germany did not respect Irish neutrality ( droppd 50 bombs on us, sunk such a high % of our merchant shipping, enslaved - when they could- our citizens in slave concentration camps to die ), and indeed Nazis did not think much of us as a race? Indeed the Nazis put us lower than the English. No wonder we ended up in slave concentration camps when the Nazis could put us there.

Do you our think our government was fooled by the Nazis, to put it mildly?

Dev was even too afraid to even allowed our media actually them Nazis! When most of the world did call them Nazi

Showing the paucity of your knowledge yet again not to mention the unhinged Get Dev narrative.
Sweden, The US (while neutral) Switzerland, Spain and other neutrals avoided the use of 'Nazi' in official language, observing the protocols of neutrality.

Totally wrong, you really have not a clue about WW2. You claim the Americans "avoided the use of 'Nazi' in official language" before they entered WW2.

Did you never read Roosevelt's ( he was the President of the USA, you cannot get more official than that) famous "Arsenal of Democracy" 1940 speech? In that speech, Roosevelt heavily used the Nazi word, warning that the world could only have "peace with the Nazis at the price of total surrender." He used the Nazi word numerous time eg "at the point of a Nazi gun" etc.

You credibility is shot at this stage, you have got so many things wrong and made false claims, and not answered any of the questions you were asked.

N.B. for your information, the United States did not officially enter World War II until December 8, 1941.

Which bit of

avoided the use of 'Nazi' in official language, didn't you understand?

Leave the US out and you are STILL left with the others observing the protocols of Neutrality.

Yes, our government here banned our media from using the Nazi word in WW2. German concentration camps were not even reported as they were liberated, so one sided was our censonship / propaganda.

You did claim the Americans "avoided the use of 'Nazi' in official language" before they entered WW2. I asked you

Did you never read Roosevelt's ( he was the President of the USA, you cannot get more official than that) famous "Arsenal of Democracy" 1940 speech? In that speech, Roosevelt heavily used the Nazi word, warning that the world could only have "peace with the Nazis at the price of total surrender." He used the Nazi word numerous time eg "at the point of a Nazi gun" etc.

Are you aware the US did not enter the war until Dec 1941?

You really do not have a clue. The Executive Order 8233 was dated Sept 5th 1939. Roosevelts speech was in 1940. The USA entered the war in December 1941. You claimed the Americans "avoided the use of 'Nazi' in official language" before they entered WW2.

I asked you:

Did you never read Roosevelt's ( he was the President of the USA, you cannot get more official than that) famous "Arsenal of Democracy" 1940 speech? In that speech, Roosevelt heavily used the Nazi word, warning that the world could only have "peace with the Nazis at the price of total surrender." He used the Nazi word numerous time eg "at the point of a Nazi gun" etc.

You should read it. You will discover you were completely wrong.

A quick google will show you the Americans often referred to the Nazis.

Also, when the Nazi concentration camps were liberated the American public was shown pictures and newsreels of the horrors there. Unlike here, even the word Nazi was not allowed.

As regards Switzerland, second sentence in to the link it says:

" An overwhelming majority of the Swiss population was strongly opposed to Nazism from the 1930's"

It is YOU who is having problems.

You wrote, in your post of 12.12 pm today, post no. 2078, that "

"Showing the paucity of your knowledge yet again not to mention the unhinged Get Dev narrative.
Sweden, The US (while neutral) Switzerland, Spain and other neutrals avoided the use of 'Nazi' in official language, observing the protocols of neutrality."

I pointed out to you that neutral USA - even the President there, while neutral - and Switzerland did not avoid the use of Nazi. They used the Nazi word, same as most of the world.

"Nazi" is a shortened form of Nationalsozialist (National Socialist). It is derived from the official name of Adolf Hitler's political party, the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.

Now perhaps you can answer the questions you diverted from.

During the war the media here was not allowed use the word Nazi even, in case it would offend them. Why was censorship here in Ireland tilted in favour of the Nazis - our media did not report the Concentration camps or the people killed there, but instead reported the civilians killed in Dresden?

Why were we not made aware - by our government, even after the war - that Nazi Germany did not respect Irish neutrality ( dropped 50 bombs on us, sunk a higher % of our merchant shipping than the allies suffered, enslaved - when they could- our citizens in slave labour concentration camps to die ), and indeed Nazis did not think much of us as a race? Indeed the Nazis put us lower than the English. Why was that? What did Hempel the Nazi party member have to say…after all he was allowed stay here for 4 years after the war when the Allies wanted to question him. No record of our government at the time asking him about the Irish merchant sailors who were separated from the British and were sent to slave concentration camps, while the British were not?

So many questions, so few answers. Why did the Germans discriminate against the 50 Irish seamen and ask them to work, then sent them to slave labour Concentration camp where 22 of them died? The British seamen were not asked to work or sent to slave labour concentration camps.

What action did the Irish govt take about the above, after they were notified about it in 1944 ( apart from commiserating on Hitlers' s death) ?

Why was Hempel the Nazi allowed stay after the war but Jewish refugees not allowed come and stay?

You have gone all the way back to May 13th, in an effort to divert FrancisBrady from answering the questions above.

Last word on this nonsense.

I did not say anything other than it was a avoided officially.

I showed you a document and there are many more from official US that avoid the use of the word Nazi.

Why did the Germans discriminate against the 50 Irish seamen and ask them to work, then sent them to slave labour Concentration camp where 22 of them died? 

Has nothing to do with our decision to be Neutral…nothing whatsoever and is just a emotive 'who will think of the children' exploitation of war victims. Shameless.

During the war the media here was not allowed use the word Nazi even, in case it would offend them. Why was censorship here in Ireland tilted in favour of the Nazis - our media did not report the Concentration camps or the people killed there, but instead reported the civilians killed in Dresden?

In line with the provisions of the Emergency Powers Act which censored phrases and terms considered derogatory or that overly criticised or praised one of the belligerents
All neutral country's did this in various ways.

It was

tilted in favour of the Nazi's

IN YOUR HEAD and increasingly bizarre exceptionalism.

How much more evidence that we operated a Benevolent Neutrality in Favour of the Allies do you seriously want???

See the Emergency Powers Act and the operation of ‘Keep The Temperature Down’ censorship policy by the Dept of External Affairs.

All belligerents in the war were treated the same and nobody escaped from TDs to Newspaper editors to Catholic bishops.

If anything the censorship was like neutrality itself - weighted in favour of the Allies. As you say Dresden wasn’t reported as the atrocity we now know it was.

Anyone else have verification for Irish cinemas showing the Bergen Belsen footage in June ‘45? I read it in an RTE article but haven’t found verification.

Because we censored stuff like that for a reason Francis. German actions were played down as were Allied actions. We were careful not to praise the actions of either belligerents because we wanted to preserve our neutrality which we did. Again what is it you don’t understand?

Once the war ended censorship relaxed. Do some research.