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2026 Irish EV Sales

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    So you've no figure for "sufficient" is just another nonsense sound bite plugged from thin air.

    "...The most popular electric vehicle (EV) in Norway in 2016 was the Nissan LEAF, which stood out as a top-selling passenger car that year. While the Volkswagen Golf was the best-selling car overall (including internal combustion engines), the Nissan LEAF and the BMW i3 were dominant electric models during that period..."

    If Norway can make these cars work in their Artic Winter its beyond feeble the excuses made here against older EVs.

    For the bargain hunter theres cheap motoring to be had. Not everyone has the sense to see it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭mr chips


    There's mention up the thread of how some older EVs are available for as little as 6-7k. Of course that's a massive drop from new prices, but it's still more than some people can contemplate spending on a car. Our current EV was easily double that (and a bargain even then), and I never plan to return to ICE. But our previous cars were a Mondeo and an Audi A6, both 2 litre diesels, neither of which cost more than 1400 quid. Each worked as a commuting car, a long distance cruiser capable of carrying 4 adults in comfort, a load-lugger and an occasional towing vehicle. Of course they were more expensive to service and fuel than an EV, but it's fair to say there still isn't an EV on the used market that can tick all those boxes in terms of usability and upfront affordability.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Then buy an A6 or Mondeo.

    The govt has put no disincentives to buying a 2 litre diesels. They are reducing the incentives on EVs. Any cost saving on fueling on an old EV will be wiped out by depreciation. Those old diesels have no depreciation. The risk for an old diesel is expensive repair bills. Especially in urban driving. But if you can buy one for 1400 just replace it. Though no one even the banger thread on boards had to raise it's budget from 2k to 3k to find decent bangers.

    "... new diesel car registrations in Ireland dropped to approximately 17% for the full year of While new diesel car registrations in Ireland dropped to approximately 17% for the full year of 2025, the overall EU average for new diesel sales plummeted to roughly 8.9%

    Basically the govt still encouraging you to buy diesel. The whole used market after 2008 is dominated by diesel. These no escaping that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,270 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    How are government still encouraging the purchase of diesel cars? They attract higher VRT, higher motor tax, there are no grant available, and used imports can have absolutely massive Nox levies. EV's and PHEV's have VRT of 7% vs up to 41% for diesel.

    Post 2008 diesel surge was due to VRT and motor tax restructuring from being based on engine size rates to Co2 rates. Diesel cars produce less Co2 than petrol cars and generally have bigger engines so it made sense for them to surge at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I'm not sure flinty said the government was encouraging diesel vehicle acquisition, rather than they weren't discouraging it enough.

    Is it time for motor tax on diesel vehicles to be pushed progressively higher and higher over the next 5 years so that nobody contemplates buying one - used or new?

    At the same time, bring in/back some sensible usage-based incentives for flipping over to an EV. Lower overnight electricity tariffs, discounted public charging cards, toll exemptions, parking fee reductions.

    Properly ignite the market.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    France has a social leasing program for EVs which would be huge here I think.

    I emailed a Minister about it but no interest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Some kind of incentive for public charging would be enough I think.

    Make it cheaper and more plentiful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    One of the shots in the arm for the initial rollout of EVs here was free on-street public charging. Ok, low power fair enough, but it was certainly taken up well and many of the early adopters on here didn't have to pay for charging for years.

    Interesting to see lamp post chargers being deployed all over the cities of London and Paris. Maybe they're on to something.

    Instead over here, we removed them all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭BestWestern


    In Germany many cities have free parking for EVs. The Irish gvt is getting a lot of flack over the M50 tolls, so perhaps a way around this is to offer toll free for electric vehicles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    The difference in motor tax between a diesel and EV is negligible.

    Difference between a pre 2008 petrol and post 2008 diesel can be massive. So if you are looking at old cars, diesel is going to be preferred. VRT, grants and levies are irrelevant to old used cars already in the Irish market.

    So basically anything after 2008 everyone might as well get a diesel. That's really only changes if you do a lot of short journeys or an EV fits your use case.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,043 ✭✭✭✭josip




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,785 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Diesel (the fuel) will cost you between 4 and 5 times the price of electricity, that can be significant if you do high mileage, if you do low mileage you will clog up a diesel cars DPF and have a costly repair bill. Looking at buying second hand, EVs are far cheaper than the equivalent diesel. That's before you look at the motor tax and servicing bills

    EVs are the superior option



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Oh I agree that's why I have one. My last diesel was nothing but trouble.

    It's not that simple with older 1st gen EVs. Which have a lot of compromises. Those are mitigated the newer you go. It's new tech changing rapidly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I know that one. Free charging removed though, right?

    Was a bank of similar (now ePower) lamp posts in Sandyford. Free charging removed maybe 2 years ago, and little or no demand now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    We already had half-price tolls for EVs, which has since been scrapped. Doubt they'll bring it back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭evftw


    Yes, my last non-EV I bought was 250 quid. I traded that in for a mk1.5 LEAF back in 2015 when they were offering 4k scrappage scheme. I figured out at the time that the change was pretty much cost neutral over 3 years but the EV was much nicer to drive and 15 years newer. With EVs buying new used to make sense as every new generation had much superior tech and range. In the first three EVs we each time doubled the range and also the acceleration got much quicker.

    Comparing at the latest two (new) EVs 2021 vs 2026 the acceleration has deteriorated a bit, the range has improved by about 20% and the utility has improved. But there is no reason why I would not next go back to the used market if the price makes sense. What I do know that it hasn't made any sense to buy a new ICE for years if a suitable one is on the market for your use case (if you can get home charging).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭mr chips


    Lest there be any confusion, I'm absolutely not advocating for diesels and was delighted to finally be shot of burning the stuff once and for all. But to give a real-life example, I have a nephew who's in the early stages of his career - no significant credit history to be able to get a car loan, working all hours to be able to afford rent, with a pre-school child that he has on weekends. He commutes on a bus going out from Dublin to a rural location - the nearest stop to his place of work is a fast 20 minute walk mostly without a footpath, which isn't great in winter. Then going to pick up and return the kid each weekend involves almost a 2 hour trek each way on buses. He's saving for his first car, which will save him substantial amounts of time each day, especially at weekends. Despite his size (he's 1.9m tall!), a 50 or even 41kWh Zoe would be ideal for him - while he lives in a flat, he'd be able to charge enough on weekends at the old home place to cover nearly all his weekly mileage, so his fuel costs would be slashed. But he just won't be able to afford €7-€10k for a Zoe, so he'll end up in an old ICE car for under a third of the upfront cost, pay for fuel and maintenance out of his weekly budget and hope it doesn't go wrong in the first year. A leasing scheme for used EVs similar to the French one mentioned above would make a huge difference to someone like him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,785 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I wasn't able to afford paying cash outright for my last car either. So I borrowed from my credit union. The cost of the loan outweighs the fuel difference.

    In the example of the Renault Zoe in your case, taking out a loan of about €10k (you should be able to get a Zoe42 for less then this) will cost about €200 a month but then you'd also save around €60 a month on bus fares so the real cost is closer to €140 a month, which you'd easily spend on fuel and repairs on an ICE



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Email politicians about social leasing.

    I tried but no traction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Nothing wrong with a used ICE either. No one's forced to buy an EV. Even if they were all the same price. A lot of people will never have home charger or simply never want to charge.

    Some might to one long distance journey a year to go surfing somewhere with no chargers. If they a old camper just for that reason that's ok too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,431 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Nothing wrong except that there's always the strong possibility of something expensive going wrong with an old ICE car that could put you off the road if you can't afford the repairs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,270 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    What makes you think that isn't a risk with an EV?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,431 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Always with the negative waves Moriarty.

    I see dealers are trying to replace the lost income from servicing by charging big prices for swapping wiper blades and pollen filters on EVs. There's a big service on EVs if it requires coolant changing. But it no wet belt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,771 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Jan-May sales by propulsion - electric (23%) now ahead of petrol (21%). Hybrid still no.1 with 26% share

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    By manufacturer:

    Merc and Porsche at the very bottom of the list, considering all the EQ products and the Macan

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    2026 v 2025 Sales by model - everything is green bar the EV6 and the model 3:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,043 ✭✭✭✭josip


    The trend in 2026 seems to be that BEV is taking Hybrid's market share while the other 3 segments, Petrol, PHEV and Diesel remain fairly static.

    I suspect it will only be in July and later sales that we will see the impact of high petrol/diesel prices on purchasing behaviour since most of the new cars currently being sold were probably ordered before things kicked off in the Gulf.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I still think a more accurate description is

    Non plug in petrol 48%

    Full electric BEV 23%

    Plug in petrols 14%

    Diesels 15%

    Petrol has half the market, electric has a quarter, diesel and plug in hybrids have a quarter between them.

    7 groupings is too many and are used to enhance stats one way or the other

    The trend is clear though the way it's going. June will be quiet but July will be very interesting for sales post the price hikes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,270 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Are mild hybrids being classed as hybrids?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    To get to 26% they prob must be? How many brands are selling hybrid in big numbers as we generally know it (Toyota style hybrid) ?

    I'm not fully clued in on the hybrid market but I know its not something the other cars in the big sellers push hard here is it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,270 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Toyotas aren't mild hybrids tho, they are 'regular' hybrids. Mild hybrids are sometimes marketed as MHEV and are so weak that they can't even drive on electric power. For example:

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