Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

You might want to open a history book

But yet again why the guilt and self flagellation like we owe them something in first place?

You are completely misinformed about Malaysia. I have been to Malaysia about 6 times over the last decade with work. The country practices affirmative action where the Malays (Muslims) get access to government jobs, contracts and employment. The other 2 major minority groups, Chinese and Indians (these really run the country economically) are left to operate in the private sector. The carrying of a Bible or Crucifix through arrivals in KL is met with immediate arrest. So much for your tolerant Muslim nation!

Does it just make people feel in some way superior or in some way more virtuous to constantly excuse any Muslim violence , no matter how shocking with the “ big bad west “ argument ?

Over the last few years in Ireland Muslims and migrants have been responsible for beheadings of gays , murder of young women , stabbing a priest , stabbing kids outside a school , sexual assaults of numerous women and children , one 10 years old outside an iPas centre , murder of a grandmother in Tipperary, and countless more . And these are cases that they couldn’t cover up , countless more unreported or brushed under the carpet .

“ oh but Irish people do this too “. Not in anywhere close to it . And if they do , deal with them , don’t let savages we don’t know into our culture and provide them with everything .

Irish or Christians don’t bomb concerts , drive cars in Xmas markets in the name of religion . It’s always Muslims

Irish people have had our own horrible history , in the past 30/40 years through decency , hard work and diplomacy we had finally built a prosperous country where people could have a good life , where people respected each other in the main and led the way in gay marriage etc . After such a struggle we now want to piss it away over people from Stone Age kips and beliefs .

I don’t give two fcks about ancient conflicts in the Middle East or perverted religious beliefs and nobodies life in this country should be affected in any way pandering to them

Expanding on a point I made earlier about some immigrants not integrating into Irish society or adopting Irish culture. I found the whole Eid celebration in Croke Park, it being promoted in the media and on the news a bit odd. They made a point of focusing on Bertie's attendance, meeting with the leader, then it cut to a shot of him all on his own in Croke Park. I'll try to find the clip from RTE News.

Why did it have to be in Croke Park, again? I feel like it is us kowtowing to them, rather than them embracing our culture. But the thing that really struck me and backs up my belief, was when they interviewed those who were in attendance at Croke Park. They had never been there before, or some had never heard of Croke Park. Ya, they're really embracing our culture. 😐

And how much are they paying to hire out the venue for 1,000 attendees?

A catalogue of 'enrichment' there. 21st Century Ireland, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest meets Escape from New York.

Our elected reps obviously don't read the papers, let alone read the mood of the nation

If i got my revenue stuff even slightly wrong it would be massive fines, interest etc.

I was answering the guy who hates Islam.

The questions you ask are pretty philosophical. Take the brothers karamazov, the protagonist feels responsible for everything.

On a personal note, I think there is something very wrong when working people cannot afford housing. It seems obvious to me that immigration needs to be ramped down. This means saying no, which is not the natural impulse in order to help the current generation of young adults. Maybe putting a policy in place that reduces incoming refugees to 1,000 in 2026. That would mean the genuine asylum seekers won't be traumatised a second time etc

It's a big discussion but a policy with numbers for Ukrainians. Ipas, students and working visas is likely the first step if we are actually a nation that values its citizens.

Currently only 20% of people with no right to say in EU are successfully returned to their home countries.

EU politicians have promised to increase deportations of undocumented migrants, under a new law that critics say mimics elements of the Trump administration’s brutal immigration crackdown.

Finalising a key element of an overhauled EU asylum and migration system, politicians have agreed a regulation that will enable national authorities to raid people’s homes to enforce deportation orders.

People facing a deportation order who are deemed to be uncooperative or a flight risk could be detained for up to two years, extendable to 30 months, compared with the 18-month detention period under existing law. Those who refuse to comply with a deportation order could have benefits or other allowances cut.

The regulation will also enable the creation of offshore return hubs, centres outside the EU where undocumented people would be held for unspecified periods, pending return to their home country.

Several EU countries are in talks with countries, mostly in Africa, to create return hubs, although no agreements have been announced.

The text agreed in three-way talks on Monday between the main EU institutions – the European Council, the European parliament and European Commission – will enable the search of people’s homes “or other relevant premises” and seizure of personal belongings in order to ensure compliance with a deportation order.

Detention will be permitted for unaccompanied minors and families with children, “as a measure of last resort” and “for the shortest appropriate period taking into account the best interests of the child”, said a press release from the European parliament.

People deemed a security risk could face a lifetime ban on entering the EU, in comparison with the current 10-year maximum ban.

The EU hopes the measures will increase deportations of people denied the right to asylum, those who have overstayed their visa or have no residency rights. Currently only about 20% of people with no right to stay in the EU are successfully returned to their home countries.

EU officials hailed the law as an important step in the bloc’s migration management. “With the new rules, we have more control over who can come to the EU, who can stay and who needs to leave,” said Magnus Brunner, the European commissioner for migration, who drafted the original proposals.

Link

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/02/eu-accused-creating-ice-style-immigration-enforcement-system

Watch the NGOs and legal cartels go ballistic.