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Random Golf Thoughts

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭ipitydafool


    This previously happened me and was told to also contact the competition secretary to make sure and check that the score was manually entered as though all cards should be checked and see if returned onto computer it might not always happen especially if you were not initially able to sign into the scoring terminal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    3 Person ‘Better Ball’

    Is that everyone plays their own ball the whole way and best score counts?

    I’m assuming these would be ‘non counting’ for WHS?

    Thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Has anyone found the golf Ireland app poor since it was updated? In particular the last few days. It's been very slow for me and glitchy. Won't open my full playing history ,I have to try a few times. Deleted it and reinstalled but made zero difference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭spuddy4711


    It doesn’t always sync with the club terminal, when scores are entered at the clubhouse computer they don’t always appear on the GI site.

    The opening page is set to Golfers, not scores, with no apparent way to change this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,543 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    I’ve recently started making myself do 20 minutes chipping practice in my back garden every evening. I wish I’d started it a couple of years ago. It’s the one part of the game you can accurately recreate at home.

    I’ve found it’s made a massive difference. Those little chips around the green have gone from the worst part of my game to the strongest. I’m way more confident as well when I’m standing over the ball around the green which is probably helping too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    I do the same but indoors off a mat, so can do it all year long. The mat has three different astro grass surfaces, spongy which catches the club if not clean strike, short like links, and grassy. Once you have reasonable technique there's no way you won't improve.



  • Administrators Posts: 56,565 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    They are especially important for a mid/higher handicapper who is not likely to hit many greens in regulation or many greens from distance and so will be really reliant on those little pitches and chips around the green on practically every hole.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭Sorbet


    My 15 year old daughter is a member in my club but hasn’t yet gotten her first cards for handicap. Going into transition year and has expressed an interest in getting and improving handicap this summer/next year. Any one any tips on how to get her into it the right way? Focus on short game practice first, putting etc. ?. games to make it fun. I know lessons will be good but she’s keen to just get out with me first for a bit.

    Want to try and approach this the right way so she enjoys it and has a better chance of sticking with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭pointer28


    I'm no expert but a near 50yo beginner.

    Our club has a Friday night 3 ball scramble 9 hole competition and I think it's the best competition for beginners. We just turn up and get put with 2 strangers and away you go.

    You're playing together as a team, you play the best shot every time and everyone in the team gets the same score at the end. It makes it very fun and sociable and really bad shots are quickly forgotten about. If you're not familiar you'll find lots of examples on YouTube.

    As for lessons, sooner rather than later before the bad habits get too ingrained.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,911 ✭✭✭blackbox


    It's definitely been a downgrade rather than an upgrade!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Dexters Bow Tie


    Lads, looking for a bit of perspective here from anyone who’s been involved in managing interclub teams over the years.

    I’m on panels for a few teams recently and playing fairly steady. Nothing outrageous, but picking up the odd divisional prize and generally keeping it respectable. Handicap is drifting a touch lately (+1 shot), but that's due to scores from a significant purple patch from last summer falling off and not quite matching those heights.

    What I’m struggling to understand is the selection side of things.I keep finding myself overlooked when teams are picked, and more often than not it seems to be the same “older heads” getting the nod. Now don’t get me wrong—I completely understand experience counts for a lot in interclub. But at the same time, it’s hard not to feel like current form is being completely ignored.

    This isn't my first crack at interclub but is the first time I haven't been included, when arguably, my previous form was sketchier. But I've always held my own and came home with results.

    It raises the question for me:
    What do managers actually prioritise when picking teams?Is it:

    • Current form (recent scores, comps, prizes etc.)
    • Previous interclub experience
    • Course fit / match play temperament
    • Or just familiarity and trust in lads they’ve had around for years?

    I’ll be honest, there’s probably a bit of frustration creeping in on my side because it feels like form should carry a bit more weight than it sometimes does. If someone is consistently shooting well and competing, you’d think they’d be given a proper run at it.

    At the same time, I’m conscious there might be more going on behind the scenes that I’m not seeing—pairing dynamics, how lads handle pressure, or even just how they get on in a team setting.

    So I’m curious:For anyone who has managed or been involved in selections, how do you actually balance all that?

    Not looking to stir the pot too much—just trying to understand it better (and maybe vent a small bit while I’m at it!).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭coillcam


    EDIT: Sorry misread your post. I'll leave the original below but replying properly in the next paragraph.

    Yes managers will have old favourites or reliables. It's no different than GAA or other sports. Sometimes your face doesn't suit and you get dropped when it makes no sense. Little you can do but continue to show up, play well and win your practice matches.

    I'd straight just ask the manager what do I need to do in order to get picked. The response could be a decent pointer to work on your chipping or putting or driver for arguments sake.

    .........

    Not a manager but I've been on a few teams and helped out in the background also. The main takeaway is don't wait to be picked. Contact the managers or coordinator to say you're available for consideration.

    Sometimes with managers it's a case of set group of favourites. You're in the group or you're not.

    Other times the manager just looks at a list of players in the handicap range. Then picks who they know have experience and starts phoning the rest of the potentials, stopping when they hit the number for the panel. Most people won't actually commit. Holidays, family, other sports, work etc all rule out a lot of people.

    Then you have managers who are super thorough. They look at results over the last year and recently. Handicap trends over time. What juniors are going to drop quickly and will be at a nice number based on last year's index. They consider matchplay results, player personality and chemistry. Etc etc.

    A majority of managers fall into the first two columns IME. Irrespective of this you should stick your neck out and message the team managers/coordinator.

    Very often teams run out of players around 2nd or 3rd round. Simply due to communions, confirmation, holidays and other commitments. My partner in foursomes dropped out the same week as our match. The last fella in our squad thankfully had the right handicap and could step in otherwise we were goosed.

    Lots of clubs don't have big numbers to pick from so you tend to see the same faces over the years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Dexters Bow Tie


    That's a good shout. Probably best to ask straight out. We've had little to no interaction outside the whatsapp group other than pairs being selected and those going out to practice. That's what led me to think it would automatically be data driven



  • Administrators Posts: 56,565 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    To be honest, unless you are playing Senior Cup or the Barton Shield then the manager is not going to tell you what you need to do to get picked. They'll just tell you they picked based on the best handicaps available.

    There is no way any Bruen / Purcell / Barton Cup manager is out watching their panel play at the weekend to see who is driving it well or chipping it well.

    The teams are picked based on optimising the handicaps of each pairing within the handicap requirements for the competition. And then, where possible, picking pairs that already know each other. That's the extent of the usage of data.

    There's also a lot of overlap on panels, e.g. the high man in Barton Cup can be the low man in Pierce Purcell and the Purcell manager might be keen to pick him given he has experience playing in a higher standard comp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭billy3sheets


    Not been a manager yet but I've played a good few different inter clubs over the years. I would also venture that some of the old hands might be bringing a bit more than their experience to the party. Some would have a few shots more than what their playing ability would suggest they should have 🤫

    I've played matches where I and my team played reasonably well but got hammered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭Barnaboy


    I've always thought that a lot of interclub teams are very clique-y. Same bunch of lads that know the manager well and the team picks itself, irrespective of form.

    I got tired of it after a few years when, like the OP, I was being overlooked when playing well. I suspect that lots of them are involved so they can play other courses for nothing with their mates.

    I don't miss the politics, but I do miss the competitive side of it. I was a member of a team that got to a final. We won our match but team lost 3-2. It was a great run and have good memories of it. But I don't have any desire to get involved again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,210 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    Can only speak about own club.

    Form seems to be irrelevant. Practice rounds irrelevant as teams pretty much set anyway.

    Manager picks himself which i think is strange in itself

    Same core lads play and drop out only if unavailable to give someone a chance. Win and it means nothing as they are dropped then to make room for the core lads to return.

    A lot of unhappy lads in our place last year and id say this years shambles has turned a lot of people off interclub going forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭srfc d16


    I haven't managed teams but my club tries to be very open about it. Google survey sent to all members in the off season asking what teams they would like to be considered for. Panels are then assembled based on that and meetings in the club with managers and the overall interclub director of what they are looking for in their team that year and how it will change based on who the opponents are.
    One of the panels I have been involved with they will try to find good pairings for young lads that will be low by the time the game is played and handicap pairings are the main driver. I was called by a manager of a team I had not put my name forward for last year and asked to play a practice with one of the young lads as my hcap was a better fit for him than others on the panel.
    Others will pick purely based on hcap. Another panel I was on needed a combined 25 minimum, there were very few 13/14/15 hcaps signed up and the manager found it hard to field a team. Other events in the same hcap range were happening on the same day so there may have been a case where somebody was picked when they were not the form player but their hcap was needed to make a combined team.
    There are definitely some teams/clubs that are a bit cliquey based on comments from friends of mine in other clubs but they will rarely go far in any tournament with that attitude.

    They are my favourite part of the golfing year and I will go up and watch the matches if I am not selected and have a bit of free time. Being involved in them has massively increased the value I get from membership of a club as there is a camaraderie involved and you get to meet new people too. I get being frustrated about missing out but if I were you I would definitely keep putting my name forward



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Half way through this list with Baltray and Royal Portrush down. Quick update to just say Portrush is the best golf course I've ever played. Incredible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭Barnaboy


    This is probably a post for the links thread! I'm on last day of our lads golf trip. Played Co. Sligo (Rosses Point) on Saturday. The place is fantastic. Manicured to perfection. Amazing views everywhere you look. I'll be back, if I can afford it!

    Then yesterday, played Carne Hackett course in Belmullet. Played here before. Again, a stupendously good golf course. A little rough around the edges in parts, but my God, what a course.

    Playing the alternative 18 today. I'm hearing the other 9 is just as spectacular. Looking forward to it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Just to add, I played St Patricks Links yesterday. Absolutely blown away.

    I'm not a good enough golfer to appreciate the design, I assume for the purists it doesn't compare to the very best. But it's the most spectacular setting I've been on, and I include Old Head, Ballybunion, Royal Portrush and Royal County Down in that list.

    Post edited by Appletart Upsetter on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭Bahanaman


    The most spectacular place I've ever played. The moment when you walk up from the par 3 3rd Hole to the tee box on the par 5 4th for the first time is breathtaking! And there are so many more such moments during the rest of the round.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭daithi7


    what's with these stupid looking golf hoodies !?

    The players who wear them must be being heavily rewarded to put up with that stupid hood flopping around behind them. Surely the dynamic weight of that hood flopping around in your swing cannot be good for your swing balance & posture!? Worse some of these bloody hoodies have really annoying dangly drawstringdrawstrings hanging down in your eyeline to the ball, these must be so off-putting surely!?

    I watched a player wearing a hoodie earlier trying to putt in the US Open, the hood was being blown up his neck while he was trying to putt, while the draw strings were dangling in front of his face right in his eyeline

    - what a dumb thing to wear on a golf course!! (rant over… ;)



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