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2025-26 UEFA Champions League - See Mod Note Post 1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,705 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Could have saved a lot of typing there with a simple “no”. Good man👍🏻



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,040 ✭✭✭McFly85


    It was hilarious but shows just how committed this current Arsenal team is to this sort of gamesmanship.

    Just passing the allotted added on time and the ref gives you a corner and specifically says he’ll give you time to take it and they’re still taking the piss with going overly slowly. Apart from the fact that it was utterly pointless as PSG wouldn’t have been given time to launch a counter attack, it was disrespectful to the ref. Delighted he called them on it and was in no mood to entertain it in the second half.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Underground


    As an Arsenal fan I was always rooting for Liverpool in their title races with Man City, for much the same reasons. Although I realise that’s the minority view, and most PL fans prefer City success over their other rivals as it “doesn’t feel real” or “doesn’t count as much”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Underground


    why ask a question you knew the answer to? I preferred to labour the point as it initially seemed to go over your head. Hope it’s clear now mate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,705 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    It’s clear that Arsenal wanted to join the Super League, which was the original point, yes. Enjoy your night, mate 🙂‍↕️



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,796 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    I think more credit should be given to Arsenal for shutting down PSG's attack than saying PSG were poor in attack etc.

    Because of how the penalty shootout ended up, all of the credit is going to go to PSG. But if Arsenal win, every bit of credit will go to Arteta & Arsenals's defence throughout the 120 mins. The penalty shoot-out doesn't change the performance of the Arsenal defensive unit. Now the unit did consist of about 9 or 10 players but it still worked. They weren't naive. They were excellent in defence overall and it shouldn't be forgotten. Terrible in attack alright, except for Havertz.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭patob


    Not many vocal PSG fans in my local Dublin pub strangely. Happy to cheer and celebrate the victory, given their attacking style throughout the season, and despite the Qatari ownership factor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen


    the super league collapsed because they didn’t have all their ducks in a row. They didn’t have SKY Sports and/or BEIN/DAZN etc on board.


    The main issue with it was that there was no promotion into it and relegation out of it I recall which would have angered lots of clubs and fans of those clubs outside of the conspirators. Arsenal would have been alright with the drawbridge pulled up though along with Spurs (how did they get in) and Arsenal fans would have adapted to the new reality in time I’d say.


    They’ll come back again with a modified version of the super league. UEFA will get in bed with them and give them things that they want to keep their stake in it. Get broadcasters on board to sell the idea. Gary Neville the main spokesman.

    Also there’s no such thing as nice owners of football clubs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭cgorzy


    Some great games to watch in the Champions League this year anyway, best games in any tournament I have seen, hopefully the World Cup betters it but seems unlikely. PSG-Bayern 1st leg is probably the stand out but lots of other great games, Bayern-Real Madrid both legs. Barcelona-Atleti 2nd leg, Barcelona dismantling Newcastle after what seemed like a close contest for a while. Chelsea taking Barcelona apart in the group phase, seems funny to remember now that Chelsea looked great that evening, Delap even scored. 2 wins for PSG now without finishing Top 8 in the group either year indicates the group phase is just about getting through in the top 24.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen


    ref was very good with Arsenal and their time wasting. They’ve been at that stuff all season and it frustrates opponents and puts them off their stride. Ref was good with it and next season all refs need to be ready right from the off to stamp out that carry on.

    That stuff at corners as well, the pulling and dragging stuff not necessarily tonight but was very bad all season needs stamped out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    I have to laugh at the Arsenal fans with their holier than thou attitude when it comes to PSG. This is a team that sacked their kitman this season for being Pro-Palestine, sports washed Rwanda who are carrying out atrocities in the DRC and then strike up a sponsorship partnership with Deel an Israeli company. You guys are just as bad as PSG, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,383 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    The ref let them away with it first half but seemed to loose his temper as he blew for half time and actually applied the rules in the second half.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,817 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Why was the game on so early yesterday? Came home late and thought I'd be after missing the first 15 minutes and barely saw anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,030 ✭✭✭doc_17


    I think lots of people would agree with you there. But Arsenal have sponsorship on their jerseys from Rwanda and also take money from an Israeli sponsor, that’s far from ideal as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen


    yes he copped on to what they were doing. I think at one stage Arsenal got a throw in two different players got their hands on the ball pretending they were going to take the throw before Rice actually took the throw. Arsenal have been doing that all season IIRC, saw it mentioned before taking ages to take set pieces throw ins and corners. Frustrating opponents.


    Yes the ref was clearly aware of it as a tactic and made it clear at the end of the first half and in the second half that he wasn’t putting up with it. Arsenal have had a good season and found a way to win their first league title in 22 years but as a neutral watching EPL and CL I’m expecting that they’ll be evolving their game because I think they will need to as opponents and officials will be aware of some of their tactics they’ve been using.


    They’ve had success which is what’s most important for them but they’re not a good example of a champion winning team for others to copy in my opinion. Maybe they’ll play better football next season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Didn’t know about the kit man? That’s really pathetic and poor poor stuff from Arsenal. Mark Bonnick a kit man with Arsenal for over 20 years and he made a comment critical of the Zionist regime in Israel and Arsenal sacked him? That’s shameful. He should get his job back.


    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/may/16/former-kit-manager-sues-arsenal-sacked-for-anti-israel-comments-mark-bonnick


    I often wondered about the Rwanda advertisement, seemed a strange sponsorship deal? The connection with an Israeli company another black mark against them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,804 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Glad PSG won, even if they're ran by a regime like Qatar. Arsenal scoring first was the worst thing that could happen to that game. I never really paid attention to their games in the league so didn't really care that people were complaining about their style of play, but if it was always like this then I fully understand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,392 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    They nearly did the CL and PL double. And against a PSG side that were scoring for fun. Pre game, I thought Arsenal would need three goals to win. So couldn’t see it happening. PSG walked last years final. But 1 was nearly enough for Arsenal, incredibly..


    Just because you don’t like the way Arsenal play, doesn’t take away its effectiveness. They basically had being unbeaten on the field of play in the Champions League. That is an incredible achievement no matter how you slice it. How many sides have done that in the history of the competition?

    If Simeone with Aletico had done that many would be raving about it. Fair dues to Arteta.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,712 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Gabriel completely winds me up, and I should have enjoyed that moment…..but a part of me feels sorry for him. Despite his antics throughout the season, he is a great player. He is lucky he’ll be going straight to Ancelotti who will sort his head out for the World Cup



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,030 ✭✭✭doc_17


    I can’t see Arsenal changing much next season, why would they? If anything, the success they’ve had this year will make them double down. An excellent team, built to last and endure a tough premier league season and they also almost won Europe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭KaiserGunner


    Been on social media sites this morning, now can understand fans bantering etc. But seeing Spurs players (Spence, Richarlison) slagging Arsenal in their posts for losing a champions league final. Have some shame after the season they've had.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen


    I think they’ll look to modify things. If they don’t Other teams including less expensively assembled teams will figure them out and nullify their set piece drills. and their long ball.

    Last night in the second half it was like watching football from the 80’s and 90’s at times. Just long straight balls over the top with PSG defenders having to turn and run back towards their goal to clear their lines. It’s not the sort of football that would keep a team at the top, they’ll have to evolve or they won’t be adding more trophies in coming seasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,544 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    One thing that annoys me is the 2 coin tosses at the start of penalties.

    I think it’d be fairer if there was just one with the winner either getting the choice of ends or deciding who goes first. Don’t like when one team gets both advantages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Underground


    I know it’s easy to just say whatever you like about Arsenal in here but Deel is not an Israeli company. Internet myth now peddled as fact.

    Very poor form about sacking the kitman though. As someone said earlier, no such thing as nice billionaires.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,648 ✭✭✭tinpib


    Saw it was due to policing/logistics etc in the host city. I guess they want it done and dusted with fans dispersed earlier instead of going on till stupid o'clock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Underground


    No big club is clean, lots of dirty money in football, the horse has kind of bolted on that.

    For me though, a sleeve sponsorship isn’t as bad as functioning as a soft power vehicle for a nation state that used slave labour to build stadiums for a bribed hosting of a World Cup (amongst other human rights violations). So I’d argue Arsenal aren’t every bit as bad as PSG by a long stretch, but each to their own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,198 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    While I agree, people do seem to have entirely forgotten that Arsenal did try the scintillating football approach under Arteta already — resulting in a team that was absolutely knackered and injury-riddled for the title run-in against the Pep machine. The season after they went on a run of hammering teams 3 nils to 5 nils, and I think their final 15 league games of that season went something like W13, D1, L1.

    Arsenal have evolved in a lot of ways. This season was a test of their resilience and bottle — the two things that have let Arsenal down in the past when they were still playing lovely dainty football.

    I agree they need to get forward fluidity back, but they are so tough and hard to beat now that you do wonder how much they can achieve if they start to click again up front as they did the first season Gabriel Jesus landed in (and the hunger remains).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,796 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    I think the final has been moved to this time permanently.

    In Central Europe, the old KO time of 9pm local would mean that game would be finished at the earliest at 11pm and by the time the trophy presentation and celebrations are finished it could be 12pm before the fans could think about leaving the stadium and trying to make it to the city. It's even later in Eastern Europe.

    Moving it to a 6pm KO local time gives fans a bit more options with public transport etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    TBF....I've not heard it reported about it being an Israeli company, more so the fact that a number of the founders and execs are Israeli nationals - not a crime by any means of course, but apparently the stance of them to support IDF reservists at a platform or personal level, even down to actively funding supplies for said reservists has drawn some attention from the usual crowd.

    On a fundamental level, frankly I think people need to understand that the world is a complicated place and they would probably be surprised exactly where their spending goes while pontificating about a variety of issues, not just the Israel thing. That technological bridge that allows people to communicate their thoughts from their fingertips to the outside world is replete with investors and interests that would warrant reflection if everything in the world was black and white. But it isn't.

    Anyway, not a subject for such a thread.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,186 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12


    Will Arteta regret some of his substitutions I wonder?

    You’d have backed Saka and Havertz in a shootout. And it definitely had the look of a Final that was heading for penalties.



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