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Kilkenny GAA Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Sir Chaz


    Excellent article. Last paragraph is the most important and the most worrying.

    Minors in a bit of bother our forwards aren't at the races albeit I feel sorry for full line as no ball is going in, and our midfield is in big trouble. Young Kavanagh no 20 is a midfielder I thought it's odd he has replaced Brion Walsh? Goal at the end has given us a chance but we'll need to seriously up it.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭Neewollah


    Very much the faults obviously in KK teams in recent time listed in PM article.

    Chasing one man and then stopping once he passes instead of keeping going to support the next tackler. That being said we are not standing the Cork lads up at all as we're too far off them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Firstsub


    Very depressing performance to end a depressing year for Kilkenny hurling. Gulf in class and teamwork



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭Willie Power


    The minors played like a team who felt their chance of silverware was gone and they didn't believe they could win the All Ireland.

    The result felt inevitable from halfway through the first half. It's not that they didn't try etc but were put away easily by a decent Cork team. There was nothing spectacular about Cork. Just that bit better all round.

    "He might be an eejit, but he's our eejit"
    Willie Power



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    The biggest difference I see between this minor team and previous Kilkenny minor teams was physicality and the attitude of some though not all players. Summed up for me in the last few minutes with Kilkenny trailing by 12 points and a Kilkenny player went for a point. Waved wide by the umpire but the Kilkenny player spent an 'age' pointlessly gesturing and arguing about whether it was wide or not. Meanwhile while he was standing up, and remonstrating, play resumed and the Kilkenny player's opponent was uncontested as he cleared his lines. Later when a Cork player passed out the same Kilkenny player and went on a solo run, the Kilkenny player didn't even chase him! not Kilkenny of previous year. And yes I know well, that we were well beaten by Limerick, but there different expectations with Clare and Kilkenny !!.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭Willie Power


    There is an obvious decline in standards across all grades, whatever started the rot.

    Marooned was saying, I don't know his source, that Lyng is staying on. That's bad news all round. I think Kilkenny CB need to be thinking of an EGM soon. Not to apportion blame to anyone but to identify what's wrong and start moving in the right direction. Otherwise the past month won't be an all time low and results will fall further.

    "He might be an eejit, but he's our eejit"
    Willie Power



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,584 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    All the problems with kk hurling this year on show again today unfortunately. I've had enough of hearing from lads saying we don't have the players, that's only bullshit. The problems are the same at every level. Before the match the body language looked wrong, we never appear to be fired up, and the workrate on the field reflects it. The forwards in particular weren't working hard enough today, even in the first half. First touch was abysmal, unforgivable in fact, and again that's been the case at every level this year. Forwards I noticed also had a habit where they failed to break a table and instead would turn and then try and get a shot off under pressure and facing away from goal. Unless you're John mullane you won't get too many of those. We couldn't win a puckout all day it felt like. But the biggest issue to me is that as a county we seem not to have any self belief. When Cork put up a few, we didn't look like a team that believed they could hammer on, the way Galway did. Kilkenny teams never believed they were beaten before, now we're practically bet before we take a field.

    No point blaming this manager or that manager, or saying we don't have the players. It's a top to bottom disaster and lads coming on here to tell us otherwise and that we will just rise again when some good players magically arrive are talking out their holes. Good players become good because they are developed properly.

    All the excuses we've been listening to for the last few years need to be gone now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Sir Chaz


    Yeh we were really, really poor. That's a very average Cork team. Very difficult to see how more of our lads weren't replaced? I reckon some of our players had 1 maybe two possessions. Cork looked a well coached but limited enough team, we didn't seem to have any gameplan or structure. We looked poorly coached and our work rate which was good the last day, was very poor today.


    A depressing end to a really depressing year for Kilkenny hurling.

    I've said it before but until we overhaul this county board with capable, younger, progressive people, and get funding in place to support them, we will decline even further. The last paragraph of PM's article says it all;

    ' 'There is an equally important and equally serious question about who should best become the next Kilkenny County Board Chairman. I have heard some alarming names mentioned'

    If he comes from any of the existing county board officials, we are screwed for years.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    the young lads ran out today never looking like they were going to win it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Rebelside


    For such an average team our lads seem to have done well, a 9 point win in a quarter final not to be sniffed at. Okay we’ll have our work cut out for us in the semi….tipp gave us a bit of a clipping in Munster. But we’re in it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,584 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    What's your point? Do you think it means you're not an average team?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭Neewollah


    Nothing against the current top table and management committee but the starting point would be an EGM to try and get a completely new team in place. However a group of people will need to come together to stand against them. Will need a complete clear out to start afresh. Is there a core group of people out there willing to do it to bring others along with them?

    If a bunch of people came forward and seemed capable the clubs would have to vote them in. Would existing county board reps bite off the hand that feeds them (all clubs need to have a serious look at who their county board rep is aswell)

    This All needs to happen before county teams management's are appointed so you cant wait until convention.

    We're in a bad place currently but with the right structures and belief we can turn this around very quickly. Everything from top to bottom has gone stale.

    I said it here a few weeks ago. Our coaching at club and county level is poor. Evidence with all our teams this year. Poor mobility, poor first touch, nobody putting a hand up to catch a ball directly, poor tackling and much more.....there's no part of the game you can say kilkenny excel at anymore

    We need a new group of people in as soon as possible and the first thing they need to do is educate and train our coaches better at all levels. At the end of the day, hurling is a game of instinct. The instinct should be in the county, you just need the coaches there to allow the players to express themselves busy giving them good basic foundations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 covcat


    I have no idea if there is anything special about those Cork minors or not but they were certainly a hell of a lot more than a little bit better than us.Bigger,stronger,fitter,better hurlers,better coached had a game plan and the very sad part is they didn't even have to be all of the above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭Neewollah


    Also I should have added. Every club and members share a part in the blame of where we've gotten to. We've all sat on our hands for too long.

    Same as I've mentioned above needs to happen for Bord na nOg too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Its an interesting and mostly good article but its a pity that lad can never write anything without getting in a dig at Tipp and the one in that article is particularly pathetic.

    As for would have definitely won the AI last year had they got into it, I reckon myself Cork would have won by 10+.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,007 ✭✭✭kk.man




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    That's minors for you, very hard to know why they were so poor today but they were flat from the start and never looked they had the energy or fire needed. The midfielders who looked so good the last day barely got a sniff today and our half forward line hardly won a ball. Every attack for Cork in the second half came from a half back storming out unchallenged. Very disappointing performance to end a very disappointing year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭usualstripes


    Iff we didn't have confirmation of how far off the track we've gone, then this result really sends a shiver down the spine. I purposely haven't commented on results over the last 2 weeks, more out of despair than anything else I'd say, but we really have dropped to levels that I haven't seen in my time watching kilkenny. And that's not today or yesterday. Root and branch scrutiny of everything we do has to be analysed now or were going to stay at this level for a long time. Let's hope we have the balls to take it on at every level in intercounty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    Now everyone can **** off with the nicities the whole management structure all have to be be sacked and senior management team gone asap. Lock stock and barrel. This has gone far enough. If the CB think there is a crisis in hurling ,then they should be gone ,if they don’t think there is a crisis in hurling they should be gone. I don’t want clowns coming on here giving there support to bigger clowns because they are nice fellows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    when you see the Cork chaps fist pumping twenty minutes into the first half and no reaction from our lads that said it all, our day was done.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Grats


    The Supporters Club surely have a part to play in improving matters, at least at County Board level. Collecting money and distributing it is fine but they must make themselves heard on behalf of their members. They know what those members think. Time to get the finger out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    I think so on the All Ireland Cork would have been well geeed up for us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    I agree with the urgency to start getting things in place,not to rush thing as such but put the right person in charge as chairman to start the ball rolling and as another poster alluded to all clubs members and officers have to come together and solve this as quickly as possible. It’s like the united Ireland debate the conversation needs to happen NOW.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭Willie Power


    TBH I didn't like the article. Ok the lads on the wrong side of their men for important goals. But everything else was as mentioned here.

    No need for the Tipp digs or saying the 1993 leveller v Wexford was better than any worked score of Cork 2004-5. To paraphrase Cody 'did he look at every point Cork scored in those 2 years?!'.

    It was an over long over verbose piece. Barely under the surface was a tone of superiority. I like a bit of humility and it read as insular.

    And the obligatory reference to football as a less beautiful game than hurling.

    Post edited by Willie Power on

    "He might be an eejit, but he's our eejit"
    Willie Power



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 covcat


    I'm afraid to say it but we are heading towards Christy Ring never mind Joe McDonagh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Agreed. Much harder to get the head right for a team you have hammered 3 times in last 3 serious games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭lob it in




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    agree entirely and I actually named at least 5 people who I would stick in as chairman. There has to be a word of warning here if this isn’t solved it will go to the bottom and then all hell will break loose and that will lead to all sorts of problems. Because these people don’t know when to quit and everyone knows this ,

    Everyone here would be called all sorts of names etc. by the CB if there was trouble, but I wonder if there could be a bloodless coup started by an EGM and sensible people presiding over it like Nicky Brennan and a few interested parties like Eddie Keher as observers who are not on the CB and have no truck with anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 covcat




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    I’m dreading the day I look up Kilkenny RIP and Kilkenny GAA will be listed on it.



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